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First Place
Love the tap on the shoulder before the blow to face.
posted by Turd-Stink on /PublicFreakout
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Second Place
Dude was recognized from the past, my boss says he got caught trying to boost stuff in the past. My boss was bird-dogging him and noticed some stuff he was carrying he was suddenly not carrying. We ask him where he put it and he tells us he left it in another part of the store. Boss says alright get out of here I remember you, dude freaks out saying fuck us. Then he pulls out a box cutter knife and starts waving it around so our clerk called the law. Dude storms out, walks back in and says I didn't steal shit and pulls his pants down and shows us his wiener and balloon knot. A guy outside said he noticed the guy flash everyone and saw the knife so he laid him out. Hit him one time and the dude took off. Police got moderately involved but I hope that guy learns from this and doesn't pull his pants down in front of a bunch of people again.
posted by Germanic_Youth on /PublicFreakout
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Third Place
I love how he turns over and lets her run his belly like a puppy dog. That wolf must have mad respect for this woman. I'd love to know the story of how she helped raise his pack..
posted by thefaith1029 on /aww
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Fourth Place
\"Moon Moon, where are you?\" ` \"Roof!\"`
posted by TooShiftyForYou on /aww
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Fifth Place
Reminds me of this other video of the dude coming home from work and freaking out cause he saw his husky chilling on the roof
posted by temporarycows on /aww
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First Place
It’s the little things
posted by bella3774 on /MadeMeSmile
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Second Place
Karen calls police on man sitting in his car outside his own house
posted by tefunka on /PublicFreakout
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Third Place
🐱 kittens!
posted by Fishbowl007 on /AnimalsOnReddit
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Fourth Place
We don't need Harvest going core, we need improvements and consolidation of existing crafting options.
posted by Enartloc on /pathofexile
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Fifth Place
5 day old foster kittens!
posted by sazzajelly on /AnimalsOnReddit
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Most Gilded Comments of the Day

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First Place
During this lockdown I have been tasked with raising my nephews in the absence of my bil and sister as they are both doctors and we are following strict guidelines to remain separate. `My eldest nephew had been bullying his younger brother and some kids over the internet. He was generally being a dick. I immediately realised that he was a bully but also hurting but I didn’t give him any excuses for his bad behaviour. I made sure to be vocal and reprimand him every time he was crossing the line or being even vaguely inappropriate towards his brother. We started to have regular conversations on where his sour attitude was coming from and at first it just seemed like he was born to be an asshole but I persisted. ` After awhile he opened up to me and he started to feel like he was being heard and was then able to explain to me that he felt like he was a disappointment to our family as we are all fairly academic and successful in our professional lives and he was worried since he isn’t so academically inclined. He was also insecure about his sexuality (because his voice was still child like and not like his friends/little brother, so he thought that made him gay) and was therefore being overly aggressive and macho. He felt like he was the ugly, dumb older brother who could never do right compared to his younger brother, he also felt insecure about his lack of hair growth both facially and down below. I can honestly say that in the past few months he has been with me he has drastically changed because I took the time to listen and give him all the love I had for him. I apologised for not making him feel more loved/not showing him how much I loved him and how important he was to me and his parents. `We had a family zoom chat with his parents and discussed all his frustrations and upsets with his parents,siblings and even me. We all agreed to praise him more and to view his achievements with enthusiasm and pride it deserved. We assured him that he will never ever be compared to anyone else again. ` Honestly in a few months he went from being this annoying always bad ass kid to the kid I always knew he was deep down. He now is helpful, kind and very fun to be around. He has stopped bullying his brother, they not only get along but have started to be like friends and we issued letters of apologies to the kids he was bullying(initially he wanted to text them but I persuaded him to reconsider),all the kids were gracious enough to accept his apologies. ` Sometimes kids need to be reminded loudly and often how loved and wanted they are.`
posted by dat_woman_over_there on /AskReddit
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Second Place
Did she ever ask you while you were doing it: ` Remember when I could fit all of you inside me?`
posted by CraptainAmerica on /IAmA
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Third Place
Trump was over a billion in debt and the Russians [bailed him out.](https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/) `► Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use[ Trump real estate to launder money.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/is-there-a-case-for-trump-putin-collaboration-years-before-the-campaign/2018/08/16/00578f1e-9440-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html) In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger.` ► In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. ([NY Times](https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html), Apr 30, 1992) `► Felix Sater is a Russian-born former mobster, and former managing director of NY real estate conglomerate Bayrock Group LLC located on the 24th floor of Trump Tower. He is a convict who became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former \"fixer\" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.` ► Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management. `► In July 2008, the height of the housing bust, Trump sold a mansion in Palm Beach for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. The sale price was nearly $54 million more than Trump had paid for the property. Again, this was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value.` ► Semion Mogilevich was the brains behind the Russian Mafia. Mogilevich operatives have been using Trump real estate for decades to launder money. That means Russian Mafia operatives have been part of his fortune for years. Many of them owned condos in Trump Towers and other properties. They were running operations out of Trump's crown jewel. `► From Craig Unger's AMA: \"Early on, a source told me that all this was tied to Semion Mogilevich, the powerful Russian mobster. I had never even heard of him, but I immediately went to a database that listed the owners of all properties in NY state and looked up all the Trump properties. Every time I found a Russian sounding name, I would Google, and add Mogilevich. When you do investigative reporting, you anticipate drilling a number of dry holes, but almost everyone I googled turned out to be a Russian mobster. Again and again. If you know New York you don't expect Trump Tower to be a high crime neighborhood, but there were far too many Russian mobsters in Trump properties for it to be a coincidence.\"` ► So many Russians bought Trump apartments at his developments in Florida that the area became known as Little Moscow. The developers of two of his hotels were Russians with significant links to the Russian mob. The late leader of that mob in the United States, Vyacheslav Kirillovich Ivankov, was [living at Trump Tower](https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate) `► According to a Bloomberg investigation (3/16/2017) into Trump World Tower, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.”` ► In 2013, Federal agents busted an “ultraexclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring” run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. They operated card games, illegal gambling websites, and a global sports book and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” connected to Semion Mogilevich. `► The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. that is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.` ► Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuiani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties tot he Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob. `► A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnel got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.` ► At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying \"...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.\" `► Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”` ► Russian oligarchs [co-signed Trump’s Deutsche bank loans.](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lawrence-odonnell-source-says-russian-oligarchs-co-signed-trumps-deutsche-bank-loans) `Trump now gleefully takes cues from Putin:` ► At the end of 2018, Putin and his allies started making a strong push for a resolution that would justify their country’s 1979 invasion of Afghanistan and reverse an 1989 vote backed by Mikhail Gorbachev that condemned it. The Putinists’ goal was to pass the resolution by Feb. There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan. And out of nowhere, on January 2nd, Trump came out strongly supporting Russia's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan. `► Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. \"I don't care, I believe Putin\"` ► Trump met in secret with Putin the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria. As a note, Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin, and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed. `► Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.` ► He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events. `► Trump pulled out of the INF treaty with no explanation, which allows Putin to create long-range hypersonic missiles that threaten Europe with impunity. The US already has all the weaponry that the INF would ban the development of, so this offers us literally nothing, while allowing Russia to develop powerful new weapons to challenge our allies.` ► Demanded Russia get invited back into G7 `► Pushed the CIA to [give American intelligence to the Kremlin.](https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/)` ► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty `► Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers, and hasn't done anything about it by the time of this writing.` ► Announced troop withdrawal from Germany (America's missile defense from Russia and forward operating base against Russian aggression) ` ► And of course, Trump continues to threaten to pull out of NATO, a move so catastrophically stupid, so inconceivably cosmically myopic, I truly can't express the profundity of the idiocy. Suffice to say, pulling out of NATO would be like the only guy in a prison yard with a shotgun just throwing it over the fence for absolutely no reason, suddenly giving the people with crude homemade shivs complete power.`
posted by Tobert420 on /Impeach_Trump
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Fourth Place
The girl accusing Waffle of this shit had already admitted to cheating on her boyfriend during the convention 6 years ago, 100s of eye witnesses saw her kissing multiple guys and even giving hand jobs to every speed runner in the scene. `Her husband ditched her at the convention and she wanted pay back. Now she wants to stream again, her husband advises against it so she jumps on the MeToo train to save her Mormon life and keep her marriage intact.` Just because you do something you regret doesnt give you the right to call it rape. `She claims she was blackout drunk but somehow recalls ever detail of what happened crystal clear. **Red Flag.**` She claims she has been silenced but the real truth came out 6 years ago and was buried because multiple people refuted her claims. **Red Flag.** `She is a Mormon and married when she was just 18 years old, her husband has talked to the person she cheated with multiple times and he claimed they were in love and he shouldnt have engaged in the CONSENSUAL ACT at the time. **Red Flag.**` She expresses her desire to stream again but knows she wouldnt be accepted in the community because of her actions and what she said 6 years ago. **Red Flag.** `A girl approached her about her behavior during the event calling her a slut/whore which made her cry, the girl then left the group of super speed run nerds and was in full control of her own judgement yet our accuser was somehow voodoo tricked into hanging out with a pack of Mario Nerds. **Red Flag.**` Im sorry, all the other cases that have been made about content creators have REAL stories behind them, they have real victims and have been dealt with accordingly. **Red Flag.** `I have no horse in this race, I dont like or dislike Waffle, but I wont see someone falsely accused for something that was already buried years ago, this person obviously has mental problems and is seeking to further herself by jumping on the bandwagon.` If you dislike Waffle thats fine, but dont jump to conclusions about something that is so obviously contrived. `Edit: looks like the battle is already partly lost. These allegations have lead loaded.gg to cover their ass, Waffle has been removed from their roster.` Edit2: Thanks for silver, at least someone can sees through the bias.
posted by Plasticious on /LivestreamFail
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Fifth Place
So. `I game. My husband games. We are both avid gamers - him moreso than I - and he lives and breathes his computer. When I read this post out loud and he heard the amount that your (hopefully ex) fiancé blew on his computer, he asked “Does the computer suck his dick while he games? Does he shit into the chair and it power the computer for him? Even as a hardcore computer gaming enthusiast, I would be hard pressed and have to make a considerable effort to spend even HALF of what he did. I don’t know how that’s physically possible even with top-of-the-line hardware. He either grossly overpaid, or he’s telling her that’s what was spent on the computer, but he’s lying and blew it elsewhere because of the amount of unnecessary shit that he had to buy in order to get to that number in the first place. That’s fucking insanity.”` It’s been 15 minutes and he’s still ranting about how unbelievable that amount is to spend on a computer. `If I were you, and my fiancé pulled that stunt, I would tell him to marry the computer since he’s so dedicated to it that it requires all his time and our joint wedding fund.` I’m just going to leave it at that.
posted by Lharka on /relationship_advice
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2020.06.30 21:05 yaboyster98 JNM let me know that she's on her way up to my apartment soon

Hi guys - I was hoping I wouldn't have to post for a few days as my move to GF's place in California was going full swing but of course this is now halted by a text from JNM. Before I begin below is my usual recap:
Ok so let's resume. I put in my 30 days notice today that I am moving out by 8/1. I was feeling AMAZING all morning that I finally am putting myself first and doing something that I want to do for my life. I have friends picking up my furniture tomorrow and I'm in the middle of packing. Things are going pretty well in that aspect. Until I receive another text from JNM:
The longer that you don’t call us to have a conversation, the more worried we become. As we are so concerned about your well being, I think that it is a good idea if I come up to Boston to visit you for a few weeks. Since my job at the school fell through, I now have time to do this. Not sure exactly when. I am looking at the train/plane schedules. The COVID numbers in NY and Massachusetts have improved, even though the pandemic is still out there. I know that it is risky for someone my age to be traveling now, but we are so concerned about you that we have no other choice because you will not call us to speak. We are so worried about you that we feel that this must be done, as we have no other way of having a conversation with you. It is obvious that something is not right if I need to travel 500 miles during a pandemic to speak with you, but if that’s what it takes then I will do it.
My heart stopped. I am panicked. I immediately sent a message I had pre-written and added onto a bit just in case she was actually going to buy a plane ticket:
I am extremely busy with work. I love and miss you but every time I think I'm almost ready to talk I receive a text that makes me not want to call. I have already explained how I feel. Please go back and read the messages I have sent. I love you and am asking for space and time because I don't think the point of this is getting through. I am fine please respect my need for space I will call when I am ready.
Just as things were finally starting to work out I get this news. She has a key and I cannot change the locks because it's a scanner type key. I have rubber door stoppers but I'm not sure if it will be enough.
I was planning on moving out 7/28 and then staying at a friend's place and flying out 7/31 but I'm afraid I may need to start packing at warp speed just in case they pop in. Worst case, everything will be in boxes and someone can just ship it (I have all of my most important things packed away already so I will have that with me at all times). I'm asking for advice still because I'm still pretty shaken over this message. Why can't they just give me a moment of peace?
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2019.11.20 02:30 RaidenIsCool Epic Tale Inside: Me (28M) and my girlfriend (24F), Going strong for 11 months. In the past two weeks, difficulty communicating, yesterday, "I need to be alone right now"

I originally posted this on /relationship_advice but I very badly need advice (I am truly not trying to karma whore). So I'm posting here too. I hope that is acceptable.
So, this is going to be a little complicated and very VERY long (about five pages in 12pt font in MS word). If you like stories, I'm a decent writer -- I think -- and I will try to make this engaging and worth your time.
I'm going to refer to 24F as "she", "her", or "24F" when there's another "she" referenced in context. She is Chinese (with excellent english skills), and I am American (with no mandarin skills, and an elementary mastery of spoken/written Japanese). When we met she was a freshly graduated Master's student, doing various internships and entry-level jobs in NYC.

BACKGROUND (LONG but gratifying, I think):
The Beginning:
I met her about a year ago in NYC. We met at a birthday party for mutual friends and found out we live on the same block. We also found out about mutual loves for very eclectic and niche topics (e.g. obscure japanese drama from 15 years ago, etc.), as well as total compatibility for watching film/movies. Here's the tough part. I was moving out of the state within a few weeks, to go back home to live with my family as I had been told that my father's health was declining. Regardless of that, we couldn't help ourselves but to hang out with each other for 6+ hours every day (except for a short weekend trip I had to make). We went on outings together for entire days (going to museums, walking around, getting meals, joking/shittalking about our favorite subjects). Two days before I leave, she expresses her concerns about long distance relationships to a friend who is going through something similar, but she (and I found out later it was purposeful) expresses it in front of me. The day before I leave, we go out with friends, get a little too tipsy, and all head to an EDM concert together. She and I end up not really liking the music too much and head off to a side room to talk. She tells me she has feelings for me, but she doesn't think it will work out because there's too much differences in our lives (she's Chinese, going to have to go back one day, and I'm moving from NYC to California). I tell her the same thing, that I'm hopelessly infatuated with her, and that I'm really worried. We hug and sway drunkenly for 30 minutes to an hour, I'm not sure how long, until the special midnight New Year's Eve event starts. We head out to the main floor to join our friends for the countdown. The clock strikes midnight, and all of our friends who are couples give each other midnight kisses, the single people give hugs and the european style cheek kisses to each other, but when she turns to me, her eyes sparkled in the lasers and lights of the event, and I couldn't help myself, I hug her really snugly, and as I pull back I kiss her forehead for about a second. The next morning we meet up to see each other off, and I hug her tightly and hand her a note I wrote, which basically says, "I've never felt anything like this feeling I have with you, I feel like you're my best friend, but I also think I am in love with you. I know it seems unlikely to work... but if you feel the same way at all, I want to try to make it work somehow." After I leave to drive my car across the country, she calls me and tells me that it's crazy but she wants to try to make it work.
The Early Relationship:
We spend January 2019 constantly videochatting, and talking, and she actually comes out to California to visit me and my family for a weekend. Sensing that we needed more of this, I spend almost the entirety of February with her in NYC at her apartment. In april, she quits her NYC internship, and moves across the country to live in my family's home with me in California. We're inseparable. Spending nearly all hours of the days and nights with each other. Taking weekend and day trips, so I can take her to Disneyland, and show her all of the things I did when I was growing up in California. She meets my parents and my mom and her spend a lot of time together while I'm working. My mom tells me that she approves and feels like "24F" is the daughter she always wished that she had. During her days, she consumes massive amounts of Chinese social media and works on her career (networking, applying for relevant jobs nearby, etc.).
The End of Cohabitation:
In August 2019, we go back to her NYC apartment (which she had rented to someone else from April - July) to spend the last month there before the lease expires. It is bliss. At the end of August, her OPT (student/working visa) will expire, so this is really our last chance to live together for awhile. We do all of our favorite things in NYC, while planning for the future. In the past, she had told me how badly she wanted children, and was also asking me almost monthly when we could get married. I wanted to ensure that we had a near-permanent residential arrangement before any of that, so I always told her, "soon, as soon as we can live together in an apartment that we share". The end of August arrives, and I see her off at the airport.
The Recent Months:
We are constantly chatting on wechat, talking about our days and all of the things she missed about her home city (Shanghai), and she shows me all these things over wechat. It is about this time that she starts telling me how inconvenient all of the trappings of our lives in America are, and tells me about how much better it is in Shanghai. I book a flight to visit her for 2 weeks in September, and I'm off. We spend two blissful weeks, meeting her entire family, and having adventures all over the city. Her family approves of me, and tells her it would be a mistake for her to make me move to Shanghai. They want her to go back to NYC with me to start our lives together. She can't really come back and is itching for a great job (which she had a very hard time finding while she was living with me in California and before in NYC, because of all the foreigner sponsorship issues). In October, we spend more time on WeChat, planning when and where we get married, and her begging me to move to Shanghai, so she doesn't have to keep living with her parents (duh, parents are quite annoying if you move back after being gone for so long). I tell her that I really want to, but I need to get approval from my company to let me work there, or I need to get a Chinese work Visa and find a job there (with me knowing virtually no mandarin (at this time)). Meanwhile, she is actively searching for a job in Shanghai, and actually receiving about 5 offers a week that are relevant to her studies.

Where the Trouble Starts:
In October, nearly every day, she tells me things like, "baby I love you more and more every day", and "I can't wait to spend the rest of our lives together". My birthday comes and goes, we have a very long call that day and talk about our plans and dreams for the near future. Her mother sends me birthday wishes over wechat, and we talk amicably (using google translate). Towards the end of the month, she tells me she wants to spend Thanksgiving week with my family. I get so excited to see her again, I tell her I'm going to pay for her flight out here since her family was so accommodating of me when I went to Shanghai (they paid for my hotel...). I book the tickets for her to come Friday before thanksgiving, and leaving the Friday right after Thanksgiving. The last week in October, she tells me she found a really exciting job opportunity, and that she wants to take it. I encourage her, and tell her how very proud I am of her. After she takes her job in the first week of November, she starts working quite intense hours (12-14 hour days), and our communication starts to lack a bit. We both make efforts to talk to each other, but it becomes hard when we turn the clocks back here in the US, and they don't in China, which results in me almost never getting to talk to her in the mornings anymore. She tells me how intense her job is but that she loves it. Her best friends in Shanghai are a group of regionally famous gay guys (they have social media attention, and one of them is considered one of the top drag queen performers in Shanghai). She starts hanging out with them more and more these days, and I get a lot of photos of all them together, but then one day she starts telling me that she doesn't feel very attractive anymore, especially hanging around all of these beautiful guys who do makeup better than she does. She also tells me that her time in the U.S. gave her a little bit of a tan, and she doesn't fit with beauty standards in Asia anymore. I tell her that I think their beauty standards are silly and that she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in my life. The next week, she starts talking to me even less. But our conversations are still similar ("baby I miss you so much, please move to shanghai soon, I really need you here with me").
At this point, I realize that I need to make moves. My company actually sees a valid reason for sending me to China, and tell me if I can close a specific deal, that I can move there. I see this as a fantastic piece of news to tell her and decide to wait until Thanksgiving to tell her that I can finally move to be with her. I end up closing the deal a week later, and start doing about 5 hours of mandarin lessons a day.
One day, she calls me in the morning, and I'm excited to get to talk to her, as we haven't been able to talk on the phone much lately. It's a wechat video call. I answer the phone, half-naked in bed, and she's at a bar, and says, "Look who came to Shanghai and I get to visit with!!" She puts the phone in the face of one of my neighbors from NYC, who I know had a crush on her and asked her out (she declined before, explaining that she and I were dating). I am instantly disappointed that she has shown my neighbor that had a crush on her my half naked body in bed, and that it's too loud for us to have a conversation. She brings the phone back to her face, and says, "Baby... what's wrong? Are you mad??". I don't want to cause a scene or distress her evening, getting to see a friend from America, and I try to shake it off and say, "Oh no I'm fine, I just really miss you, and I'm a bit depressed here in California." She tells me, "No... you are upset, I know that face anywhere. What's wrong? Seriously?" I tell her that we should talk later, and she says, "Okay, love you, bye." About an hour later, she messages me and says, "Why did you have to do that? I was having such a great time finally for the first time in awhile, and you upset me by being so upset." I explained again to her that I just wanted to have a conversation with her, and I missed our normal daily calls. After that, we go back to our regular texting every day, getting on the phone maybe once every three days.
At this time, in the second week of November, she says something that starts to make me feel a bit anxious and weird. She tells me again about how she's not feeling attractive and she misses the days in NYC where she would have 3-5 guys every day asking for her number. She also tells me a story about how a guy on the NYC subway was drawing her in secret one day. A few days later, she asks me if I would be willing to change her flight from San Francisco to NYC because she wants to spend the weekend there before joining me and my family in SF. I tell her that I guess it would be fine, but I'm asking all these questions like, "are you sure??", "Why do you want to do that?", "Where will you stay?" Her response is basically that she wants to spend some alone time wandering and being herself while she has this secured week of vacation from this job that she only just started within the month. At last, I tell her why I'm upset. I bring up the things she mentioned about herself not feeling attractive, missing getting hit on by guys in NYC, and that I'm really upset that we don't get to spend any time at all together, and her excuse for wanting to go to NYC is that she needs to be alone/without me? We spend entire months without each other. She basically doesn't respond to my concerns and just tells me that she really needs to do this for her mental health. I don't disagree with her, and I just want her to be happy, so I help her change the flight.
In mid-November, I continue to express my concerns to her, and ask if we can talk about everything, because I want to help her through the trouble she's having. Most of this is ignored, except that she tells me "I love you baby, really", on the 12th. I respond with "Don't break my heart again for a long time okay?" I hear nothing. "Are you awake?", "I know you're tired...but I need you to try to talk to me more." "Good night...." During the night, I tell her, "I kept waking up like 20 times to check my phone to see if you said anything else...".
That day, I myself, actually get the opportunity to go to NYC with a couple friends for the 13th-17th. I post a lot of stories on Instagram of my travelings around the city, and I see that she watches all of them, almost religiously. Then after 4 days of complete radio silence from her, she says out of nowhere, "baby". Four hours later she asks, "are you back in California"? I tell her that I was supposed to go to Boston, but that I'm feeling really ill (really it's constant anxiety over wtf is going on), and that I'm flying home the next day (Sunday). On Sunday she tells me when she's going to land in SF (she booked another ticket from NYC to SF). I tell her how hard the past couple weeks have been, and how I can't wait to see her, and that I've had so much anxiety. She doesn't respond to any of my texts except asking why I'm having anxiety. I repeat again, all of the concerns I've been telling her over the past two weeks, and she says nothing. When I get back to California, I tell her I've landed, and I go to sleep. Yesterday, Monday, when she wakes up in China (it's Tuesday morning for her), she sends me two screenshots of notes she wrote for me. They say the following:
It's just been really busy lately. I love my job -- everyone at the office is extremely talented and smart; the work itself is interesting, not really traditional PR but more like consulting work. I feel like I need to learn a lot every single day to keep up with them. It's really time and energy consuming.
Since I got back to Shanghai, nothing is the same. Friends, environment, and even the way I live with my parents. To explore myself more, I finally realized that I stepped into a new phase of life. I'm eager to learn what I genuinely have passion for and who I will actually become. The unknown journey makes me, a person who loves spoilers, really uncomfortable. But deep down I know, it's a slow process, you can't speed up and, of course, there are no spoilers in life.
I appreciate how much you love me and the time we spent together. You told me that you reached a point in life that you are sure I am the person who you are willing to spend the rest of your life with. But I'm really not sure. I'm not ghosting you but just busy with life and knowing it's so hard to start the conversation like this.
At this moment, I have a ton of problems, but gradually, I am accepting the fact that everyone has problems and we have to live with it. I want to solve these problems by myself, mostly myself. In this phase, I really can't spare myself to handle a long distance relationship. I know you are not happy in California. It's cruel, but I don't think I can make it any better. A good relationship is the trophy of two strong minds, definitely not two sad people trying to warm each other up. We both have a lot of problems at this point. The only thing I want to do now is learn myself, to grow, to become stronger, to fix the problems, to become the person I will love. And I know the self growth thing I can only achieve by myself.
I love you, and I know you love me too. But what I've learned from the past, probably the only thing I've learned, is to love myself more.
One of my notes for you to realize after reading her note, is that the only time I have ever expressed any problems in my life without her, it has simply been that I am sad that I cannot be with her, and that I'm super jealous about her exciting life in Shanghai. I'm a very strong person, and I have a great job, my father is recovering well, nothing is wrong in my life except that I am furiously working to move out to Shanghai to be with her.
I ask her if she's telling me that we're over (all of the sudden), if we can just see how things work out. I tell her that I was trying to move to shanghai and that I have things coming together already. She says, "I want to be with myself first". I say, "Okay, I can let you do that, but can you please promise me that you'll let me try to make it work for us?"
She says, "There are spaces for friends now but definitely not for an intimate relationship." I ask, "What about in the long run?"
"I can't tell dude.. I can't see the future for myself yet. Everything has just started for me."
"I know but.... you wanted to get married like literally a month ago! I know everything has changed, but can you deny that the relationship we had was great? I'm trying to move across the world for you, I'm happy to let you try exploring and being yourself, but... I thought you were happy when we were together"
"It's happy, but not exciting"
We go back and forth for a bit, with her giving me one liners, and she basically ends up saying, she is planning on moving somewhere else some time, I shouldn't move to china for her cause it's too much pressure on the other person, and that she acknowledges what I'm saying except that, "it's different timing in life for us".
That was the last thing she said to me yesterday. I have continued to try to talk to her, but I have received no response.

FINALLY: What is my question?
EDIT: I want to iterate that this relationship is the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I've been in 5 relationships that lasted longer than a year, two of which lasted longer than 2 years. This is the most emotion and love I've ever felt for anyone I've dated. These past two weeks have been agonizing, and I'm hoping she's just going through a phase... but part of me thinks that maybe something really did happen, and she just decided that it's over. Out of nowhere.
My question... the advice I'm asking for is:
Have you ever been in a situation like this? The relationship is going extremely well. You are doing fine with a lot of long distance in between getting to be together, and then just suddenly in the course of two weeks, it goes from, "Let's get married, please move here asap" to "I need to love myself, and I don't have the energy for you, we're not at the same place in life". What happened in that situation? How did you fix it? What happened if things didn't go well? What if anything did you or they do to make things worse/better?
I would also really really really welcome any general advice you could give me. Maybe she is just stressed from this sudden life transformation? Going back to your home only to be rejected by those who stayed there, starting a new high stress job for the first time in your life? Making rash decisions before you've even settled down in your job. I don't think she's cheating on me, I think she's just making a huge life decision because she's really engaged with her job, and she had made up her mind that I'll never go out to Shanghai. Or maybe she misses her old single-life self? She was a fierce NYC kwane who wore crazy runway style outfits.
I want to tell her that she's being rash, and that this whole thing has been extremely unfair to me. I just don't know how to do it so that the chances of us getting back together one day are materially possible.
I'll talk in the comments below about what I'm thinking of saying when she finally does come to SF next week. By the way, she is NOT going to be staying with my family... she's staying with a friend up in the city.

TL;DR:
Girlfriend and I have had a very successful but geographically-challenging relationship thus far. By the last half, we were on the same page about marriage, children, we had met each other's families on opposite sides of the world. Suddenly in the course of the past two weeks, she tells me she can't be in an intimate relationship, and that she has no energy for anything other than her new job and developing herself. I get the chance to meet her in person one last time next week. What can I do?! More questions advice request above in "FINALLY: What is my question?" bold section.
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2019.11.20 01:35 RaidenIsCool Epic Tale Inside: Me (28M) and my girlfriend (24F), Going strong for 11 months. In the past two weeks, difficulty communicating, yesterday, "I need to be alone right now"

So, this is going to be a little complicated and very VERY long (about five pages in 12pt font in MS word). If you like stories, I'm a decent writer -- I think -- and I will try to make this engaging and worth your time.
I'm going to refer to 24F as "she", "her", or "24F" when there's another "she" referenced in context. She is Chinese (with excellent english skills), and I am American (with no mandarin skills, and an elementary mastery of spoken/written Japanese). When we met she was a freshly graduated Master's student, doing various internships and entry-level jobs in NYC.

BACKGROUND (LONG but gratifying, I think):
The Beginning:
I met her about a year ago in NYC. We met at a birthday party for mutual friends and found out we live on the same block. We also found out about mutual loves for very eclectic and niche topics (e.g. obscure japanese drama from 15 years ago, etc.), as well as total compatibility for watching film/movies. Here's the tough part. I was moving out of the state within a few weeks, to go back home to live with my family as I had been told that my father's health was declining. Regardless of that, we couldn't help ourselves but to hang out with each other for 6+ hours every day (except for a short weekend trip I had to make). We went on outings together for entire days (going to museums, walking around, getting meals, joking/shittalking about our favorite subjects). Two days before I leave, she expresses her concerns about long distance relationships to a friend who is going through something similar, but she (and I found out later it was purposeful) expresses it in front of me. The day before I leave, we go out with friends, get a little too tipsy, and all head to an EDM concert together. She and I end up not really liking the music too much and head off to a side room to talk. She tells me she has feelings for me, but she doesn't think it will work out because there's too much differences in our lives (she's Chinese, going to have to go back one day, and I'm moving from NYC to California). I tell her the same thing, that I'm hopelessly infatuated with her, and that I'm really worried. We hug and sway drunkenly for 30 minutes to an hour, I'm not sure how long, until the special midnight New Year's Eve event starts. We head out to the main floor to join our friends for the countdown. The clock strikes midnight, and all of our friends who are couples give each other midnight kisses, the single people give hugs and the european style cheek kisses to each other, but when she turns to me, her eyes sparkled in the lasers and lights of the event, and I couldn't help myself, I hug her really snugly, and as I pull back I kiss her forehead for about a second. The next morning we meet up to see each other off, and I hug her tightly and hand her a note I wrote, which basically says, "I've never felt anything like this feeling I have with you, I feel like you're my best friend, but I also think I am in love with you. I know it seems unlikely to work... but if you feel the same way at all, I want to try to make it work somehow." After I leave to drive my car across the country, she calls me and tells me that it's crazy but she wants to try to make it work.
The Early Relationship:
We spend January 2019 constantly videochatting, and talking, and she actually comes out to California to visit me and my family for a weekend. Sensing that we needed more of this, I spend almost the entirety of February with her in NYC at her apartment. In april, she quits her NYC internship, and moves across the country to live in my family's home with me in California. We're inseparable. Spending nearly all hours of the days and nights with each other. Taking weekend and day trips, so I can take her to Disneyland, and show her all of the things I did when I was growing up in California. She meets my parents and my mom and her spend a lot of time together while I'm working. My mom tells me that she approves and feels like "24F" is the daughter she always wished that she had. During her days, she consumes massive amounts of Chinese social media and works on her career (networking, applying for relevant jobs nearby, etc.).
The End of Cohabitation:
In August 2019, we go back to her NYC apartment (which she had rented to someone else from April - July) to spend the last month there before the lease expires. It is bliss. At the end of August, her OPT (student/working visa) will expire, so this is really our last chance to live together for awhile. We do all of our favorite things in NYC, while planning for the future. In the past, she had told me how badly she wanted children, and was also asking me almost monthly when we could get married. I wanted to ensure that we had a near-permanent residential arrangement before any of that, so I always told her, "soon, as soon as we can live together in an apartment that we share". The end of August arrives, and I see her off at the airport.
The Recent Months:
We are constantly chatting on wechat, talking about our days and all of the things she missed about her home city (Shanghai), and she shows me all these things over wechat. It is about this time that she starts telling me how inconvenient all of the trappings of our lives in America are, and tells me about how much better it is in Shanghai. I book a flight to visit her for 2 weeks in September, and I'm off. We spend two blissful weeks, meeting her entire family, and having adventures all over the city. Her family approves of me, and tells her it would be a mistake for her to make me move to Shanghai. They want her to go back to NYC with me to start our lives together. She can't really come back and is itching for a great job (which she had a very hard time finding while she was living with me in California and before in NYC, because of all the foreigner sponsorship issues). In October, we spend more time on WeChat, planning when and where we get married, and her begging me to move to Shanghai, so she doesn't have to keep living with her parents (duh, parents are quite annoying if you move back after being gone for so long). I tell her that I really want to, but I need to get approval from my company to let me work there, or I need to get a Chinese work Visa and find a job there (with me knowing virtually no mandarin (at this time)). Meanwhile, she is actively searching for a job in Shanghai, and actually receiving about 5 offers a week that are relevant to her studies.

Where the Trouble Starts:
In October, nearly every day, she tells me things like, "baby I love you more and more every day", and "I can't wait to spend the rest of our lives together". My birthday comes and goes, we have a very long call that day and talk about our plans and dreams for the near future. Her mother sends me birthday wishes over wechat, and we talk amicably (using google translate). Towards the end of the month, she tells me she wants to spend Thanksgiving week with my family. I get so excited to see her again, I tell her I'm going to pay for her flight out here since her family was so accommodating of me when I went to Shanghai (they paid for my hotel...). I book the tickets for her to come Friday before thanksgiving, and leaving the Friday right after Thanksgiving. The last week in October, she tells me she found a really exciting job opportunity, and that she wants to take it. I encourage her, and tell her how very proud I am of her. After she takes her job in the first week of November, she starts working quite intense hours (12-14 hour days), and our communication starts to lack a bit. We both make efforts to talk to each other, but it becomes hard when we turn the clocks back here in the US, and they don't in China, which results in me almost never getting to talk to her in the mornings anymore. She tells me how intense her job is but that she loves it. Her best friends in Shanghai are a group of regionally famous gay guys (they have social media attention, and one of them is considered one of the top drag queen performers in Shanghai). She starts hanging out with them more and more these days, and I get a lot of photos of all them together, but then one day she starts telling me that she doesn't feel very attractive anymore, especially hanging around all of these beautiful guys who do makeup better than she does. She also tells me that her time in the U.S. gave her a little bit of a tan, and she doesn't fit with beauty standards in Asia anymore. I tell her that I think their beauty standards are silly and that she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in my life. The next week, she starts talking to me even less. But our conversations are still similar ("baby I miss you so much, please move to shanghai soon, I really need you here with me").
At this point, I realize that I need to make moves. My company actually sees a valid reason for sending me to China, and tell me if I can close a specific deal, that I can move there. I see this as a fantastic piece of news to tell her and decide to wait until Thanksgiving to tell her that I can finally move to be with her. I end up closing the deal a week later, and start doing about 5 hours of mandarin lessons a day.
One day, she calls me in the morning, and I'm excited to get to talk to her, as we haven't been able to talk on the phone much lately. It's a wechat video call. I answer the phone, half-naked in bed, and she's at a bar, and says, "Look who came to Shanghai and I get to visit with!!" She puts the phone in the face of one of my neighbors from NYC, who I know had a crush on her and asked her out (she declined before, explaining that she and I were dating). I am instantly disappointed that she has shown my neighbor that had a crush on her my half naked body in bed, and that it's too loud for us to have a conversation. She brings the phone back to her face, and says, "Baby... what's wrong? Are you mad??". I don't want to cause a scene or distress her evening, getting to see a friend from America, and I try to shake it off and say, "Oh no I'm fine, I just really miss you, and I'm a bit depressed here in California." She tells me, "No... you are upset, I know that face anywhere. What's wrong? Seriously?" I tell her that we should talk later, and she says, "Okay, love you, bye." About an hour later, she messages me and says, "Why did you have to do that? I was having such a great time finally for the first time in awhile, and you upset me by being so upset." I explained again to her that I just wanted to have a conversation with her, and I missed our normal daily calls. After that, we go back to our regular texting every day, getting on the phone maybe once every three days.
At this time, in the second week of November, she says something that starts to make me feel a bit anxious and weird. She tells me again about how she's not feeling attractive and she misses the days in NYC where she would have 3-5 guys every day asking for her number. She also tells me a story about how a guy on the NYC subway was drawing her in secret one day. A few days later, she asks me if I would be willing to change her flight from San Francisco to NYC because she wants to spend the weekend there before joining me and my family in SF. I tell her that I guess it would be fine, but I'm asking all these questions like, "are you sure??", "Why do you want to do that?", "Where will you stay?" Her response is basically that she wants to spend some alone time wandering and being herself while she has this secured week of vacation from this job that she only just started within the month. At last, I tell her why I'm upset. I bring up the things she mentioned about herself not feeling attractive, missing getting hit on by guys in NYC, and that I'm really upset that we don't get to spend any time at all together, and her excuse for wanting to go to NYC is that she needs to be alone/without me? We spend entire months without each other. She basically doesn't respond to my concerns and just tells me that she really needs to do this for her mental health. I don't disagree with her, and I just want her to be happy, so I help her change the flight.
In mid-November, I continue to express my concerns to her, and ask if we can talk about everything, because I want to help her through the trouble she's having. Most of this is ignored, except that she tells me "I love you baby, really", on the 12th. I respond with "Don't break my heart again for a long time okay?" I hear nothing. "Are you awake?", "I know you're tired...but I need you to try to talk to me more." "Good night...." During the night, I tell her, "I kept waking up like 20 times to check my phone to see if you said anything else...".
That day, I myself, actually get the opportunity to go to NYC with a couple friends for the 13th-17th. I post a lot of stories on Instagram of my travelings around the city, and I see that she watches all of them, almost religiously. Then after 4 days of complete radio silence from her, she says out of nowhere, "baby". Four hours later she asks, "are you back in California"? I tell her that I was supposed to go to Boston, but that I'm feeling really ill (really it's constant anxiety over wtf is going on), and that I'm flying home the next day (Sunday). On Sunday she tells me when she's going to land in SF (she booked another ticket from NYC to SF). I tell her how hard the past couple weeks have been, and how I can't wait to see her, and that I've had so much anxiety. She doesn't respond to any of my texts except asking why I'm having anxiety. I repeat again, all of the concerns I've been telling her over the past two weeks, and she says nothing. When I get back to California, I tell her I've landed, and I go to sleep. Yesterday, Monday, when she wakes up in China (it's Tuesday morning for her), she sends me two screenshots of notes she wrote for me. They say the following:
It's just been really busy lately. I love my job -- everyone at the office is extremely talented and smart; the work itself is interesting, not really traditional PR but more like consulting work. I feel like I need to learn a lot every single day to keep up with them. It's really time and energy consuming.
Since I got back to Shanghai, nothing is the same. Friends, environment, and even the way I live with my parents. To explore myself more, I finally realized that I stepped into a new phase of life. I'm eager to learn what I genuinely have passion for and who I will actually become. The unknown journey makes me, a person who loves spoilers, really uncomfortable. But deep down I know, it's a slow process, you can't speed up and, of course, there are no spoilers in life.
I appreciate how much you love me and the time we spent together. You told me that you reached a point in life that you are sure I am the person who you are willing to spend the rest of your life with. But I'm really not sure. I'm not ghosting you but just busy with life and knowing it's so hard to start the conversation like this.
At this moment, I have a ton of problems, but gradually, I am accepting the fact that everyone has problems and we have to live with it. I want to solve these problems by myself, mostly myself. In this phase, I really can't spare myself to handle a long distance relationship. I know you are not happy in California. It's cruel, but I don't think I can make it any better. A good relationship is the trophy of two strong minds, definitely not two sad people trying to warm each other up. We both have a lot of problems at this point. The only thing I want to do now is learn myself, to grow, to become stronger, to fix the problems, to become the person I will love. And I know the self growth thing I can only achieve by myself.
I love you, and I know you love me too. But what I've learned from the past, probably the only thing I've learned, is to love myself more.
One of my notes for you to realize after reading her note, is that the only time I have ever expressed any problems in my life without her, it has simply been that I am sad that I cannot be with her, and that I'm super jealous about her exciting life in Shanghai. I'm a very strong person, and I have a great job, my father is recovering well, nothing is wrong in my life except that I am furiously working to move out to Shanghai to be with her.
I ask her if she's telling me that we're over (all of the sudden), if we can just see how things work out. I tell her that I was trying to move to shanghai and that I have things coming together already. She says, "I want to be with myself first". I say, "Okay, I can let you do that, but can you please promise me that you'll let me try to make it work for us?"
She says, "There are spaces for friends now but definitely not for an intimate relationship." I ask, "What about in the long run?"
"I can't tell dude.. I can't see the future for myself yet. Everything has just started for me."
"I know but.... you wanted to get married like literally a month ago! I know everything has changed, but can you deny that the relationship we had was great? I'm trying to move across the world for you, I'm happy to let you try exploring and being yourself, but... I thought you were happy when we were together"
"It's happy, but not exciting"
We go back and forth for a bit, with her giving me one liners, and she basically ends up saying, she is planning on moving somewhere else some time, I shouldn't move to china for her cause it's too much pressure on the other person, and that she acknowledges what I'm saying except that, "it's different timing in life for us".
That was the last thing she said to me yesterday. I have continued to try to talk to her, but I have received no response.

FINALLY: What is my question?
EDIT: I want to iterate that this relationship is the best relationship I've ever had in my life. I've been in 5 relationships that lasted longer than a year, two of which lasted longer than 2 years. This is the most emotion and love I've ever felt for anyone I've dated. These past two weeks have been agonizing, and I'm hoping she's just going through a phase... but part of me thinks that maybe something really did happen, and she just decided that it's over. Out of nowhere.
My question... the advice I'm asking for is:
Have you ever been in a situation like this? The relationship is going extremely well. You are doing fine with a lot of long distance in between getting to be together, and then just suddenly in the course of two weeks, it goes from, "Let's get married, please move here asap" to "I need to love myself, and I don't have the energy for you, we're not at the same place in life". What happened in that situation? How did you fix it? What happened if things didn't go well? What if anything did you or they do to make things worse/better?
I would also really really really welcome any general advice you could give me. Maybe she is just stressed from this sudden life transformation? Going back to your home only to be rejected by those who stayed there, starting a new high stress job for the first time in your life? Making rash decisions before you've even settled down in your job. I don't think she's cheating on me, I think she's just making a huge life decision because she's really engaged with her job, and she had made up her mind that I'll never go out to Shanghai. Or maybe she misses her old single-life self? She was a fierce NYC kwane who wore crazy runway style outfits.
I want to tell her that she's being rash, and that this whole thing has been extremely unfair to me. I just don't know how to do it so that the chances of us getting back together one day are materially possible.
I'll talk in the comments below about what I'm thinking of saying when she finally does come to SF next week. By the way, she is NOT going to be staying with my family... she's staying with a friend up in the city.

TL;DR:
Girlfriend and I have had a very successful but geographically-challenging relationship thus far. By the last half, we were on the same page about marriage, children, we had met each other's families on opposite sides of the world. Suddenly in the course of the past two weeks, she tells me she can't be in an intimate relationship, and that she has no energy for anything other than her new job and developing herself. I get the chance to meet her in person one last time next week. What can I do?! More questions advice request above in "FINALLY: What is my question?" bold section.
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2018.11.05 04:35 gscs1102 The Unresolved Mysteries Surrounding Abraham and Mary Todd Lincoln's Engagement and Marriage: Part 2

Sorry that this has taken forever - the more I look into some of this, the more questions I have. I feel like some things deserve more analysis, but it would take so long that I’m trying not to let perfect be the enemy of good.
 
ETA: Forgot links to earlier parts - sorry!
 
Introduction: https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9rhmzi/the_unsolved_mystery_surrounding_abraham_and_mary/
 
Part 1: https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9s0d7g/the_unresolved_mysteries_surrounding_abraham_and/
 

Mary Owens Recap

 
Looking at my last post, I feel like the Mary Owens letters need further scrutiny. They have been subjected to detailed analysis by other scholars, but I still wonder about some things.
 
What exactly is going on with Lincoln? Did he feel he couldn’t say no to her sister because he had little prospects for finding another possible wife? Or because he felt he couldn’t insult her by saying no? Exactly how desperate was he? Is he in fact repelled by her and trying to force a rejection, as he later claimed? Is he just really awkward and doesn’t know what to make of the situation? Is he interested or hopeful but just really afraid of screwing it up? Is he sure that she will be miserable in the marriage and resent him and the guilt will ruin his life?
 
Why does he suddenly write to Mrs. Browning, with no other information about his life? My guess on that is because he had spoken to her about marriage and found it cathartic to tell the story and neutralize the embarrassment.
 
His fixation on his resolutions will be relevant in future posts, so I’m trying to figure out what exactly he told her. It seems they had far deeper conversations that I think most scholars have acknowledged, but it’s impossible to reconstruct. They’d spoke of her moving to Springfield, yet he says her interest may have been a “jest” or misunderstood by him. He doesn’t reference her responses in his own letters, or much else after the first political update - it’s all a monologue. Yet he does ask her to write to him.
 
He speaks of their “late meeting” and seeing her “lately.” Did they have just one meeting when he visited New Salem? Had he perhaps seen her in public several times but in private only one time? And then they apparently engaged only in small talk? Or did she actually make a trip to Springfield to see him? Why was Mary Owens even going along at this point? If she was interested or desperate to marry, did she try to calm his fears and profess that she was in fact interested and believed she would be happy with him? His letters don’t address such responses. He seems completely uncertain as to where he stands — she was not described as meek, so you’d think the situation would have been a bit clearer at this point. But women were supposed to be rather coy in these matters, so maybe she thought she was being modest. Then after that last awkward letter, she clearly didn’t reject him or even indicate disinterest, because he met and repeatedly proposed to her. When in the fall did this happen? Did he go to New Salem, or did she go to Springfield? I’ll make a note here that by now he had a group of good Springfield friends who remained lifelong friends. They never mentioned this relationship in later years. Perhaps Lincoln kept it very quiet.
 
Most importantly, I feel like the letters show that he takes marriage very, very seriously, and he wants his wife to be completely certain she is making the right decision and knows what she is getting into. He is not going to try and “get” or “charm” a woman in a way that might compromise her rationality. And he even goes so far as to say that his wife’s happiness would be enough to make him happy, and his greatest fear would be her unhappiness. He makes no demands on her, but also no promises, or even recognition of the fact that there would be expectations of love or affection or anything. Yet it doesn’t seem like it was a mere transaction, an economic arrangement - they were in no rush, and she rejected him. I don’t really get the sense that he’s merely trying to scare her off, although he certainly could be — but he seems to be in earnest about his thoughts on marriage. If he really wanted to get out of the engagement, he was a clever enough person that I think he could have figured out a way to make her lose interest in him in a relatively short period of time. The letters radiate crippling low self-esteem — is this an act to scare her off? Or is he this tormented? And if he is, how much of it is fear of getting attached to anyone who might resent living in poverty and whose unhappiness would destroy his peace of mind?
 
The letters are also relevant because his fixation on keeping his word and making sure a potential wife is aware of what she’s getting into will come up later, and it seems quite odd to me that one year after the break up with Mary Owens, he could have rashly made the same mistake, without even the complications of having made a promise to a friend and inducing Mary Owens, who he viewed as having few prospects for marriage, to move to another village. With his apparently low self-esteem and terror of romantic interactions, if it was not an act, you’d think he’d almost be terrified of approaching any woman unless he was enraptured.
 
I know many readers are interested in Lincoln’s sexuality. You could interpret this as a man not interested in women. But you could also interpret it as a man who is interested in women but does not know how to deal with them, causing awkwardness and anxiety and basically self-sabotaging in an effort to blunt the effect of anticipated rejection. If he wanted a wife because it was expected of a politician and, to a lesser extent, the community, it seems like he would have been able to do this in a rather transactional, drama-free way. I wanted to get these thoughts down, but now I will move to the main story. Most of the quotes are from the analysis of the timeline in Douglas L. Wilson’s Honor's Voice: The Transformation of Abraham Lincoln, which was written a while ago. While the book is excellent, I don't completely agree with his timeline and interpretation.
 

Contemporary Evidence

Mary’s first biographer, Ruth Painter Randall, also the source of some of this, made a very crucial point: “One ounce of contemporary evidence is worth a pound of reminiscence.” This section attempts to plot out a timeline with as few assumptions as possible, and independent of later explanations of events. I think it is very important to get this straight first.
 

The Dray Incident

 
Mary had made a best friend, Mercy Levering, in the winter of 1840. Mercy was her companion in the shingle-over-the-mud adventure mentioned in a previous post. But Mercy had declined to ride on the dray driven by Hart — too unladylike — and had made her way through the thick mud to go home. Mary was bolder and more resourceful.
 
Elias H. Merryman, a friend of Lincoln’s, apparently wrote a poem about this incident, though it was made public by his descendants much later and I suppose could have been fabricated, but I doubt it. The incident definitely happened. At the time, it was a joke among friends. Writing poems and skits like this was common - they didn’t have TV. In part:
 
Up flew windows, out popped heads,
To see this Lady gay
In silken cloak and feathers white
A riding on a dray. At length arrived at Edwards' gate Hart backed the usual way And taking out the iron pin
He rolled her off the dray
 
Randall commented, “The last line is another case of jesting about Mary's plumpness,” which other biographers echo. To me, that is not clear, and seems to be the product of later comments distorting everything prior, which is a major problem analysis of this issue and in historical writing in general. It sounds like he pulled the pin to “dump the cargo,” allowing her to slide out without climbing over the sides. I mean, it could be a reference to her weight, but I don’t think it is obvious, as the tone of the poem is not really unflattering or disparaging, just ridiculous. The proper thing for Hart to do would have been to help her out, but this was probably part of the joke of riding in a dray.
 

Newspapers

 
Mary spent the summer of 1840 traveling to visit family, including in Columbia, Missouri. While there, in July, she wrote to Mercy. Always full of energy, she describes attending all night dance parties with her cousin. She mentions that a grandson of Patrick Henry seemed interested, but says that his family connections are not enough. “I love him not, & my hand will never be given, where my heart is not.” She indicates lots of men are calling on her, which would have been common. She was visiting well-positioned family connections, and part of the point of such trips was to find suitable spouses. Mary was always an exuberant, interesting letter writer, but the letters to Mercy are very flowery. The next set of her letters in existence is not until many years later, and she sounds less over-the-top by that time. I think she was imitating the period’s idea of girlish enthusiasm or playfulness. Quoting fictional works was common, and Mary was well-read - that’s what some of her more cryptic sayings refer to. Apparently it wasn’t her thing to discuss suitors in any open way - she did it all poetically and weirdly, like she knew we’d be looking at them some day. Presumably Mercy understood her references. These literary references do not appear to have been looked at very closely by scholars, although my research on this point has not been particularly enlightening. One biographer noted that her letters "have an authentic ring that defies duplication . . . It is difficult, if not impossible, for another to convey quite the impression of buoyancy, of fine-drawn temperament, that her own early letters carry." I find this to be true of almost all her letters - it would be extremely hard to pass off a convincing forgery.
 
But she follows that up with the interesting comment that “A life on the river to me has always had a charm, so much excitement, and this you have deemed necessary to my well being; every day experience impresses me more fully with the belief." She also indicates that Mercy took her aside one day and gave her advice: "Would it were in my power to follow your kind advice, my ever dear Merce and turn my thoughts from earthly vanities, to one higher than us all."
 
Every week since I left Springfield, have had the felicity of receiving various numbers of their interesting papers, Old Soldiers, Journals & even the Hickory Club, has crossed my vision. This latter, rather astonished your friend, there I had deemed myself forgotten.--When I mention some letters, I have received since leaving S— you will be somewhat surprised, as I must confess they were entirely unlooked for. this is between ourselves, my dearest, but of this more anon; every day I am convinced this is a stranger world we live in, the past as the future is to me a mystery.”
 
Italicized words were underlined in the actual letters.
 
This has been frequently assumed to be a reference to Lincoln. There’s no great evidence for this, only that they were engaged within months, and that she seems surprised. Lincoln was probably less likely to write letters to absent women than other men in the town, as he was never much of a letter writer in general. I’m not sure if Mercy could have understood this reference, or why Mary would have kept it such a secret. Women were supposed to be “refined,” but plenty of them weren’t this vague. It is possible that Mercy got rid of more revealing letters.
 
An editorial aside for context (slightly political):
 
She is referring to Springfield newspapers. 19th century people were unbelievably obsessed with newspapers, and it was like everyone had their own. Journalists seem often to have been the most independent, courageous people around. Abolitionist newspaper editors were frequently attacked and had their printing presses thrown into the river. Many would immediately purchase a new one and publish until they were killed. Some published multiple papers daily. The popularity of Garrison’s abolitionist Liberator seems beyond comprehension today. His first edition (of course published in Boston) in 1831 began as follows:
 
I am aware that many object to the severity of my language; but is there not cause for severity? I will be as harsh as truth, and as uncompromising as justice. On this subject, I do not wish to think, or to speak, or write, with moderation. No! no! Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen;— but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest— I will not equivocate— I will not excuse— I will not retreat a single inch— AND I WILL BE HEARD. The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal, and to hasten the resurrection of the dead.
 
Somehow, Garrison was not assassinated, but editors like him make it clear why the Civil War was inevitable - the country was full of people who spoke with such articulate conviction, north and south (the north had more of them, since the south wasn’t big on free speech when it threatened social stability), about slavery and other issues. The leading figures in society were bold, earnest, and effective (though we erroneously think of people in this era “couldn’t have imagined” the issues they discussed with shocking clarity), and at the time they made evasion impossible, even if most people tried it. They were too influential and too eloquent. There’s a lot more to say on this topic, but the dominance of newspaper culture, and the fact that most people had personal ties to a paper, has to be understood.
 
The big city editors were often extreme eccentrics and radical independents who would never have ceded control to any corporate influence. The papers were more partisan and personal than today, but also way funnier and intelligent. They combined levity and earnestness in a way I find appealing, and were a huge source of entertainment.
 

Mary's Summer of 1840 Letters

 
The papers mentioned were local and campaign-centered, so they weren’t particularly impressive. But the Old Soldier was a paper Lincoln edited with some friends. The Hickory Club was democratic - this may have been sent by Stephen Douglas or one of his friends. In any event, Mary sees the papers expressions of romantic interest, and the Springfield men clearly think she will be interested in the latest political news. She doesn’t come across as difficult, calculating, or even ambitious in these letters. They are upbeat and almost fanciful.
 
She makes the cryptic comment that “my beaux have always been hard bargains at any rate.” We generally use this term when we take about “driving a hard bargain.” The way she uses this term, and other uses from the time period, seem to indicate that a “hard bargain” was something that no one really wanted, like a defective product you tried to force on a buyer.
 

Mary's Return to Springfield

 
In late September, Mercy’s suitor or fiancé, James Conkling, wrote Mercy that Mary was back in Springfield. (Mercy was traveling.) Lincoln was away giving political speeches. Because Mary was Mercy’s best friend, Conkling gave her several updates. Mary was hanging around the main newspaper office (also connected to Lincoln) for a “singing club” performance promoting the candidacy of William Henry Harrison. At the time, Illinois and some other states became really big on involving women in campaign activities; hence singalongs. Conkling explains that he and Mary were the (seemingly only) witnesses at a wedding of their friend, but makes no mention of Mary being involved with Lincoln or anyone else. He says that he had heard rumors that this friend, Martha Jane, might be getting married, but he hadn't believed them. A few hours later, he found out it was true, and the marriage happened the next day, after which they left immediately for a honeymoon. This illustrates how secretly and quickly marriages could happen, and how small and simple they could be.
 
Now Mary’s weight comes into play, and tends to become a huge part of the narrative because of the timeless obsession with women’s appearances. While the following extract of Conkling's letter clearly indicates that the weight gain was a recent and unusual thing, it was somehow was extrapolated back to the dray incident that would have happened nearly a year before. There was also some perceived connection between gaining weight and being in better health, probably because there were so many diseases that caused women to waste away, and people with consumption-type illnesses were believed to benefit from traveling around the west.
 
Verily, I believe the further West a young lady goes the better her health becomes. If she comes here she is sure to grow – if she visits Missouri she will soon grow out of our recollection and if she should visit the Rocky Mountains I know not what would become of her. Miss Todd certainly does improve astonishingly and soon bids fair to rival Mrs. Glenn if she does not exceed old Father Lambert. She regrets your absence very much and feels quite lonesome. And now Martha Jane has goes as well as yourself I do not doubt but she is quite solitary and were it not that Dr. Todd's daughter has returned from Kentucky she must feel the change very sensibly. She is the very creature of excitement you know and never enjoys herself more than when in society and surrounded by a company of merry friends.”
 
Some scholars have seized on Mary's weight as the obvious reason for Lincoln’s second thoughts. Subjecting this to close analysis seems silly, but just in case it is relevant, I will do so. It sounds like there may have been some humorous exaggeration going on in Conkling’s letter, as she had not been gone long enough to be unrecognizable. But she was short (estimates range from 5’ to 5’6” and I think she was closer to 5’), so it may have shown more. Lincoln had also claimed that he knew Mary Owens were “over-size” when he agreed to marry her, though he had his limits. It seems unlikely that Mary had gone past these limits. Lincoln was probably home briefly in late September, and likely saw her enough to notice any weight gain. Then he spent 6 weeks stumping for Harrison and doing legal work.
 
As a brief aside, "Dr. Todd's daughter" was likely a cousin she was close to for life, known as Lizzie. There is some possibility that some of the future references to "Miss Todd" could be references to her and scholars somehow missed this. I think this is unlikely, but it is a possibility.
 
A month later, on October 24, Conkling reported that “she did not appear as merry and joyous as usual. It appeared she looked around for former friends and asked ‘Where are they?’” It’s not clear who this refers to. This has been suggested to refer to Lincoln, who apparently visited in late September. It is possible that many of her friends got married and either stayed home or moved away, and that summer visitors left. This seems more likely, as the letter describes the small wedding of Conkling's close friend - Mary was the only female guest not related to the family. So apparently she was into weddings. But he makes no reference to any of Mary's plans in this way.
 
Again, I am sticking as much as possible to contemporary evidence for this section, so I’m trying to bring in very little retrospective testimony, even if it could provide a lot of context. That will come in later, after we have the record firmly established to the extent that we can. Most scholars have tended to work backwards from the accepted narrative and make earlier pieces fit, and that can be a dangerous game. Speed’s comments that I am about to address came 25 years after the events and his memories could well have been influenced by many factors. I include them because I think they help highlight the timeline and possible inconsistencies.
 
After Lincoln’s death, Speed told Herndon that this is around the time when Lincoln wrote her, at which point, as Herndon noted based on their conversation, “She darted after him,” responding with apparent enthusiasm. It’s not clear why he would have suddenly initiated correspondence, but it seems he may have seen her briefly while in Springfield. I’ve always found the “darted after him” comment weird. Herndon was good about taking down interviews literally, so I assume this was Speed’s actual wording, but it was many years later. I mean, Lincoln wrote her, and apparently kept responding, and he was out of town so she couldn’t have been following him around. Maybe he didn’t know how to let her down gently, being lonely and wishing to talk politics with someone who was interested, and not expecting such a response. But I just find the comment odd, as no one has ever been able to explain exactly when they got engaged or how that happened. But Speed’s comments suggest it happened in October (by letter) or early November (when he returned from the campaign trail).
 
At the least, they had some sort of “understanding,” as he had with Mary Owens before his attempts at actually proposing. Who they told is unclear, as is when they planned to marry. It is unclear how Ninian and Elizabeth felt about it. They may have thought him beneath her, but not necessarily. He’d been allowed to call on ladies at their house and generally socialize, and to write to Mary. He was friends with Ninian and was her cousin’s law partner. They definitely liked him on a personal level. He doesn’t appear to have been completely off-limits. He was, however, still very poor, despite increasing political influence, and the Todds and Edwardses took great pride in their ancestry. Evidently Mary didn’t care so much about it.
 

Matilda Edwards

 
In mid-November, a relative of Ninian’s, Mathilda Edwards, came to visit. She was 18, graceful, and beautiful, supposedly receiving 20 marriage proposals during her visit to Springfield. She was apparently very pleasant and religious, and ultimately married an older man who had driven her to Springfield, to everyone else’s disappointment. She stayed with Mary, perhaps even sleeping in her bed. They seemed to get along well.
 
On November 30, Mathilda wrote home to her brother. She mentioned Joseph Gillespie, who became a good friend of Lincoln, and who a scholar says at that time was “her father’s protege and traveling companion.” He had “found a second Caroline in Miss Mary Todd. She is a very lovely and sprightly girl.” I don’t know who Caroline is, but she was probably a girl he liked. She could be saying they just got along well as pals, but this seems to indicate that Mary was not known to be engaged to anyone.
 

Signs of Trouble?

 
By late November, Lincoln’s remarks in the legislature seemed rather testy and sarcastic (unusual for him), and also kind of obsessive and personal. He seemed to be constantly suspicious that people were calling his essential honesty or motives into question. Some of this was happening, but most of the comments he objected to were about his party or county in general, and were probably typical of political debate. But this may have been nothing more than a reflection of the especially major and contentious issues before the legislature.
 
Lincoln is thought to have been pretty stressed by this point. He’d been speaking for months on the road. His party, the Whigs, had lost Illinois. He was now in the middle of a special session of the legislature. Wilson explained his situation:
 
The Sangamon Circuit Court opened on November 9, a day or two after he arrived, and its sessions overlapped the beginning of the special session of the legislature two weeks later, when Lincoln was expected to lead the Whigs in the House of Representatives. The governor had called the special session – to be held two weeks before the start of the regular session – to deal with the problem of a dangerously accelerating state debt, caused by the improvident system of internal improvements that Lincoln and his fellow legislators had rashly put through in 1837. The reversal of these actions, which were bankrupting the state, must have caused Lincoln real pain and embarrassment, as did the Whigs’ futile efforts to save the State Bank. It was in the service of this doomed cause that Lincoln committed committed an act of folly for which he suffered instant ridicule and humiliation, the memory of which pained him the rest of his life.
 
Wilson then explained what happened on December 5th: “This was his infamous leap out the window of the Second Presbyterian Church.”
 
It is unclear that this incident pained him for the rest of his life - it sounds more like it pained the writer because it didn’t go with Lincoln’s presidential image. Lincoln was a performer (one scholar made the under-recognized point that Lincoln and Mary got along because they were “both hams”) - it seems clear he would have liked to be on stage or in the arts, but that wasn’t really an option, so politics was as close as he got, and he made it an art form. He incorporated dramatic acts when he felt like it, and probably more often when he was desperate. Springfield men seemed to behave like overgrown boys for their entire lives, but in a mostly good sense, enjoying fun and antics and joking around while still being principled and productive. Wilson explains further:
 
On the last day of the special session, as part of a desperate move to keep the members of the Democratic majority from passing an antibank measure by denying them a quorum, Whig members refused to appear at the church, which was serving as temporary quarters for the House of Representatives. Lincoln and two other Whig members attended to make sure that the ayes and nays were called and that the absence of a quorum was duly observed. This worked for a time, but to their astonishment, after they had demanded another roll call and been counted present, the tally showed that the sergeant at arms had managed to round up enough members to produce a quorum. Barred from absenting themselves by the doors, the panicked Whigs opened a window and scrambled out. This, of course, availed them nothing as far as the quorum was concerned, for there were no Whigs left to demand another roll call, but its resounding effect was to make Lincoln a laughingstock.
 
Wilson quotes a paper that competed with Lincoln’s own and different politically, and therefore was going to view the incident from that position.
 
Mr. Lincoln, of Sangamon, who was present during the whole scene, and who appeared to enjoy the embarrassment of the House, suddenly looked very grave after the Speaker announced that a quorum was present. The conspiracy having failed, Mr. Lincoln, came under great excitement, and having attempted and failed to get out the door, very unceremoniously raised the window and jumped out, followed by one or two other members. This gymnastic performance of Mr. Lincoln and his flying brethren did not occur until after they had voted and consequently the House did not interfere with their extraordinary feat. We have not learned whether these flying members got hurt in their adventure, and we think it probable that at least one of them came off without damage, as it was noticed that his legs reached nearly from the window to the ground!
 
It’s hard to tell if this was just a joke or playful surrender, or if it indicated the beginning of a mental collapse on Lincoln’s part, as it was a serious political disaster he’d tried hard to avoid. That others jumped with him indicates it might be the former, but Lincoln’s magnetic leadership ability may have led them to follow unquestioningly.
 
Speed much later recalled to Herndon that Lincoln and Mary broke up during this special session, which ran from November 23—December 5. He also claimed, as many did, that Lincoln, like all the others, had fallen for Mathilda (it is unlikely he acted on this feeling or the it was reciprocated), and this had been the cause. But that would have had to happen very shortly after Mathilda’s letter on the 30th, which indicated no problems, and seems to conflict with the widely accepted January 1st date of the breakup, which I will get into later. Again, I’m trying to keep the focus in this part on purely contemporary evidence, because the later accounts may just be wrong, due to distorted memory or other motivations. But Speed should be a reliable source, so I’m at least including his claims for context.
 
The special session had ended on the 5th, and on December 7th, the regular session began. That day, Lincoln wrote to his law partner and Mary’s cousin, John T. Stuart, who had been elected to congress and was in D.C. It was normal political news.
 
At some point in December, Mary wrote Mercy that she had become “quite a politician, rather an unladylike profession, yet at such a crisis, whose heart could remain untouched while the energies of all were in question?” No mention of Lincoln or any controversy. As Randall (known for being obviously defensive of her subject, but who did excellent work) notes: “But, of course, much could have happened between the time that letter was written and the first of January.” In the same letter, Mary spoke of her weight, "in her own poetic way": “I still am the same ruddy pineknot, only not quite as great an exuberance of flesh, as it once was my lot to contend with, although quite a sufficiency.”
 
This letter probably was written in the middle of December. As Wilson wrote:
 
Almost as if written in anticipation of our curiosity, Mary’s letter to Mercy Ann Levering in Baltimore talks about all the things we are interested in: Lincoln, Speed, who is being attentive to whom, who is engaged and about to commit “the crime of matrimony,” and even an appraisal of the new girl, Matilda Edwards. Here is the passage in Mary’s letter that introduces her:
 
Mr Edwards has a cousin from Alton spending the winter with us, a most interesting young lady, her fascinations, have drawn a concourse of beaux & company round us, occasionally, I feel as Miss Whitney [Wilson lists this person as unidentified, but I suspect it is a literary reference], we have too much of such useless commodities, you know it takes some time for habit to render us familiar with what we are not greatly accustomed to – Could you step in upon us some evenings in these “western wilds,” you would be astonished at the change, time has wrought on the hill, I would my Dearest, you now were with us, be assured your name is most frequently mentioned in our circle, words of mine are not necessary to assure you of the loss I have sustained in your society, on my return from Missouri, my time passed most heavily, I feel quite made up, in my present companion, a congenial spirit I assure you. I know you would be pleased with Matilda Edwards, a lovelier girl I never saw. Mr Speed’s ever changing heart I suspect is about offering its young affections at her shrine, with some others, there is considerable acquisition in our society of marriagable gentlemen, unfortunately only “birds of passage.” Mr Webb, a widower of modest merit, last winter is our principal lion, dances attendance very frequently, we expect a very gay winter, …”
 
What about Lincoln, who, according to most biographers, was at this time either engaged or very nearly engaged to the writer of this letter? He is mentioned by name twice, though it is far from clear what the first reference means. . .
 
Speed’s ‘grey suit’ has gone the way of all flesh, an interesting suit of Harrison blues have replaced his sober livery, Lincoln’s, lincoln green have gone to dust, Mr Webb sports a mourning p[in] by way of reminding us damsels, that we ‘cannot come it.’
 
The other reference to Lincoln concerns an excursion that is in preparation:
 
we have a pleasant jaunt in contemplation, to Jacksonville, next week there to spend a day or two, Mr Hardin & Browning are our leaders the van brought up by Miss E[dwards] my humble self, Webb, Lincoln & two or three others whom you know not, we are watching the clouds most anxiously trusting it may snow, so we may have a sleigh ride – Will it not be pleasant?
 
I believe much of these odd references are also literary. I have no idea why this needed to be so cryptic and poetic. Possibly both she and Mercy were facing family disapproval for romances and hoped to be discreet, as she also refers to Mercy’s love interest by a literary pseudonym. Or maybe Mary just enjoyed the creative exercise. Months later, a visiting relative wrote to a cousin (who happened to be Matilda’s brother) that Mary “told me to give you much love when I wrote with all kinds of pretty messages which I cannot recollect.” So this was apparently her style. I’m hoping that someone really into pre-1841 literature can identify some of this.
 
“Lincoln green” had been a popular color of dye, associated with Robin Hood. I briefly looked into this and found an interesting reference on Wikipedia.
 
Michael Drayton provided a sidenote in his Poly-Olbion (published 1612): "Lincoln anciently dyed the best green in England." Cloth of Lincoln green was more pleasing than undyed shepherd's gray cloth: "When they were clothed in Lyncolne grene they kest away their gray", according to A Lytell Geste of Robyn Hode, ca 1510, and Lincoln green betokened an old-fashioned forester. . .
 
The quote given associates it with a “woodman,” which sounds like it may be a good reference for Lincoln.
 
Harrison could somehow be a reference to William Henry Harrison — perhaps that Speed was perked up by his election? But the Wikipedia reference suggests there may be another connection - that his metaphorical gray suit is being contrasted with the more lively Lincoln green, which has now “gone to dust.” That phrase is common and easy to understand, but I have not been able to figure out where it has originated, and it is probably literary, given the quotes. I suspect more light may be shone by studying Robin Hood tales or The Faerie Queen, which contain such references, but I haven’t done that. In any event, it implies Speed is either perking up or getting worse, if blue refers to low mood. But Lincoln is almost certainly worse off.
 
On December 19th, Lincoln seemed fixated on a mostly procedural issue involving an investigating committee. Whether he was trying to protect his party, as his opponents claimed, make some sort of political maneuver, or, as he claimed, trying to correct a possible wrong against the public, is unclear. He pushed this issue several times, and repeatedly referred to his honest motives, saying that the members who knew him would know better than to accept the charge as made by a member he did not know well. What the result was is not clear.
 
On December 21, Lincoln spoke of how one member had alleged that some of his constituents had engaged in widespread fraud relating to controversy over the bank and currency. He conceded that one of his constituents had allegedly lied under oath, but that it didn’t go beyond that. Others accused him of throwing that one man under the bus because he was a Democrat and likely not to have voted for Lincoln. Lincoln repeatedly brought up the issue, and said that he “did not know whether Mr. D. voted for him or not---he presumed he did not. If there were those in this House who thought this fact would have any influence on his conduct in regard to this bill, he should not stop to enlighten them as to his motives; he was careless of the opinion of such.” He did not seem to be in a very good mood, and almost like he was looking for a fight or being petulant.
 
Matilda’s father wrote a letter home, dated only December 1840. From the context, Wilson concluded it almost certainly referred to the Christmas weekend, which seems likely. I don’t think Christmas was as significant then.
 
Your Sister [Matilda] started with Miss Todd for Jacksonville on Thursday morning under the protection of Mr Hardin, accompanied by Gillespie, Lincoln, Webb and Brown of Vermilion. They will return on Monday. We miss them very much.
 
They are believed to have returned on December 28th, and Lincoln was reportedly in the legislature the next day.
 
 
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2017.07.23 17:40 feedreddit THE SCARAMUCCI SHOW … New comms director debuts on Sunday shows -- NYT A1: Trump infrastructure plan stalled -- DAWSEY DOWNLOAD: Health care edition -- BONUS weekend reads -- B’DAY: Brock

THE SCARAMUCCI SHOW … New comms director debuts on Sunday shows -- NYT A1: Trump infrastructure plan stalled -- DAWSEY DOWNLOAD: Health care edition -- BONUS weekend reads -- B’DAY: Brock
by [email protected] (Daniel Lippman) via POLITICO - TOP Stories
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Good Sunday morning. SPOTTED: H.R. McMaster at a vineyard outside Santa Barbara Saturday ... Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke running on the Mall Sunday morning.
THE PRESIDENT is at his golf course in Virginia today.
THE PRESIDENT’S WEEK: THE WHITE HOUSE says the theme of the week is “American heroes.” MONDAY: The president is going to West Virginia. TUESDAY: Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri is coming to the White House at 2 p.m. The president is also going to Ohio. WEDNESDAY: Trump is speaking at the American Legion Boys Nation and American Legion Auxiliary Girls Nation. THURSDAY: The president is participating in an event for first responders. FRIDAY: Trump is going to New York.
SUNDAY BEST -- THE SCARAMUCCI SHOW -- ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI had a fascinating interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union”:
-- ‘COMMUNICATIONS PROBLEM’ SCARAMUCCI: “Listen, there’s obviously a communications problem, because there’s a lot of things that we have done as it relates to executive orders, bills that have been signed, economic progress.”
-- ON RUSSIAN MEDDLING: SCARAMUCCI: “You know, somebody said to me yesterday -- I won't tell you who -- that if the Russians actually hacked this situation and spilled out those e-mails, you would have never seen it. You would have never had any evidence of them, meaning that they're super confident in their deception skills and hacking.” ... TAPPER: “Well, you’re making a lot of assertions here. I don’t know who this anonymous person is that said, if the Russians had actually done it, we wouldn’t have been able to detect it, but it is the unanimous…”
SCARAMUCCI: “How about it was -- how about it was the president, Jake?” TAPPER: “OK. It’s the consensus of the intelligence community.” SCARAMUCCI: “I talked to you yesterday. He called me from Air Force One.” TAPPER: “Yes.” SCARAMUCCI: “And he basically said to me, hey, you know, this is -- maybe they did it. Maybe they didn’t do it. And I'm going to maintain for you -- hold on a second.”`
-- ON HAIR, MAKEUP AND THE PRESS BRIEFING: SCARAMUCCI: “So, Sarah Huckabee is the president secretary. If you’re asking me for my personal opinion -- and maybe the president will be upset for giving my personal -- we should put the cameras on. That’s no problem. I don’t think we need to have the cameras off.
“But if the president doesn’t want the cameras on, guess what? We’re not going to have the cameras on. It’s going to really be up to him. But I think we should put the cameras on. … The only thing I ask Sarah -- Sarah, if you’re watching, I loved the hair and makeup person that we had on Friday. So, I would like to continue to use the hair and makeup person.”
-- NOTE: Scaramucci signaled to Tapper that he didn’t know if Trump would sign the new Russian sanctions bill. Sarah Huckabee Sanders said on ABC’s “This Week” with George Stephanopoulos that the “administration is supportive in being tough on Russia … we support where the legislation is now.” http://bit.ly/2trIuYQ
-- SCARAMUCCI to Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday”: “One of the first things I want to do, as was just mentioned, we got to get the leaks stopped, Chris. ... So my three simple things is I would like to reset the culture inside the comms department so that people recognize that I’m actually there to serve them, and they’re going to be working with me, not for me. That’s a very big distinction. And that all of us are there to serve the President of the United States and his agenda …
“If we don’t get the leaks stopped, I am a businessperson, and so I will take dramatic action to stop those leaks. And then the third thing is I’ll be traveling with the president this week and we’re going to focus and refine the messaging from the White House. He’s one of the most effective communicators that’s ever been born, and we’re going to make sure that we get that message out directly to the American people. And I think that arbitrage spread, the gap between how certain people think of him and how I see him, or say like someone like Ivanka sees him, that will start to narrow so.”
SCARAMUCCI on CBS’S“FACE THE NATION”:DICKERSON: “What happens to leakers on your watch?” SCARAMUCCI: “They’re going to get fired. I’m just going to make it very, very clear, okay? Tomorrow I’m going to have a staff meeting. And it’s going to be a very binary thing. I’m not going to make any prejudgments about anybody on that staff. If they want to stay on the staff, they’re going to stop leaking. If the leaks continue, we are strong as our weakest link. And I’ll say it a little differently in a pun. We're strong as our weakest leak. So if you guys want to keep leaking, why don’t you guys all get together and make a decision as a team that you’re going to stop leaking? … But if you're going to keep leaking, I’m going to fire everybody. It’s just very binary.”
-- TAKEAWAYS: Scaramucci’s maiden Sunday show performance as communications director featured some very unusual tactics. 1. He spoke directly to Trump. 2. He mentioned his credentials of going to Harvard Law School at least twice.
GLENN THRUSH on A1 of the NYT: “Trump’s ‘Great National Infrastructure Program’? Stalled” (print headline: “Infrastructure, Trump Priority, Is Pushed Aside”): “As a candidate, President Trump billed himself as a new breed of think-big Republican, pitching a $1 trillion campaign pledge to reconstruct the nation’s roadways, waterworks and bridges — along with a promise to revive the lost art of the bipartisan deal.
“In the White House, Mr. Trump has continued to dangle the possibility of ‘a great national infrastructure program’ that would create ‘millions” of new jobs as part of a public-private partnership to rival the public works achievements of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Dwight D. Eisenhower. He chastises anyone who forgets to include it near the top of his to-do list, telling one recent visitor to the Oval Office, ‘Don’t forget about infrastructure!’
“But an ambitious public works plan, arguably his best chance of rising above the partisan rancor of his first six months in office, is fast becoming an afterthought — at precisely the moment Mr. Trump needs a big, unifying issue to rewrite the narrative of his chaotic administration. Infrastructure remains stuck near the rear of the legislative line, according to two dozen administration officials, legislators and labor leaders involved in coming up with a concrete proposal. It awaits the resolution of tough negotiations over the budget, the debt ceiling, a tax overhaul, a new push to toughen immigration laws -- and the enervating slog to enact a replacement for the Affordable Care Act. … ‘Right now, it doesn’t appear that they have a plan,’ said Richard L. Trumka, president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O., who is pushing for more federal spending.” http://nyti.ms/2uNhXsJ
BOSTON GLOBE’S ANNIE LINSKEY in BOARDMAN, OHIO: “GOP misread Trump victory as mandate to gut health care”: “There’s a deep love for Donald Trump here in the Mahoning Valley, once a reliably Democratic swath of northeastern Ohio that turned purple in the last election. But when it comes to Republicans in general, there’s far less affection from the base, particularly in the wake of a stalled agenda in Washington.
“‘It’s like they’re still not listening, listening to the people,’ said Ruth Nabb, a senior citizen from the area and a Trump supporter who spent Friday morning at the Republican headquarters here. ‘We’re all tired of it.’ She’s floored that the Republican leadership in Congress didn’t have a workable health care plan ready to swiftly replace the Affordable Care Act. She’s livid that Republican senators, including Ohio’s Rob Portman, stood in the way of passing the Senate version of a health care overhaul. But she also doesn’t like the idea of reducing entitlement programs that benefit her family and community, including less funding for Medicare and dramatic spending cuts to Medicaid that are a core feature of the House and Senate Republican plans.
“‘They’ve been bitching about this for 7½ years,’ Nabb said of the Republicans in Congress. ‘So they’ve had time to get their ducks in a row.’” http://bit.ly/2uoBGwu
SCHUMER VS. HILLARY -- “Trump had ‘The Art of the Deal.’ Now Democrats say their economic agenda is ‘A Better Deal,’” by WaPo’s Ed O’Keefe and David Weigel: “‘When you lose to somebody who has 40 percent popularity, you don’t blame other things — Comey, Russia — you blame yourself,’ Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in an interview previewing the new plan. ‘So what did we do wrong? People didn’t know what we stood for, just that we were against Trump. And still believe that.’” http://wapo.st/2trCZJG (h/t Aaron Blake)
DAWSEY DOWNLOAD, HEALTH CARE EDITION -- “White House officials have low expectations for this week’s health care vote and have started considering privately what President Trump will do it if fails. Trump has recently taken more of an interest in health care, frustrated by the failure in the Senate. One senior administration official said news coverage of a failure -- or potential failure -- sharpens his focus on an issue. When the bill was yanked from the House floor it sharpened the president’s focus.
“Trump has been annoyed by stories that say he doesn’t know much about health care. That has led to the president’s increasing focus on the topic. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell would rather be talking about judicial nominees or ‘almost anything else,’ one person familiar with his thinking said. Many senators are also said to be tired of the ongoing debate. So while health care is not what Trump would prefer to be talking about, he is likely to keep pushing for a ‘deal, some kind of deal’ instead of moving on.”
FOR DON MCGAHN -- “Can the President Be Indicted? A Long-Hidden Legal Memo Says Yes,” by NYT’s Charlie Savage: “A newfound memo from Kenneth W. Starr’s independent counsel investigation into President Bill Clinton sheds fresh light on a constitutional puzzle that is taking on mounting significance amid the Trump-Russia inquiry: Can a sitting president be indicted? The 56-page memo, locked in the National Archives for nearly two decades and obtained by The New York Times under the Freedom of Information Act, amounts to the most thorough government-commissioned analysis rejecting a generally held view that presidents are immune from prosecution while in office. ‘It is proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting president for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president’s official duties,’ the Starr office memo concludes. ‘In this country, no one, even President Clinton, is above the law.’” http://nyti.ms/2uMzl1h … The memohttp://nyti.ms/2tr1GGh
ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR TRUMP -- “U.S. Lawmakers Reach Deal on New Sanctions Against Russia,” by WSJ’s Natalie Andrews: “Congressional negotiators reached a deal late Friday to advance a bill that would punish Russia for its interference in the 2016 election and restrict the president’s power to remove sanctions on Moscow. It remained unclear whether President Donald Trump would sign the bill if it reaches his desk, which is now likely. … The House is slated to vote Tuesday on a package of sanctions against Russia, Iran and North Korea, according to guidance released by House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R., Calif.).” http://on.wsj.com/2umIn3T
-- DAVID SANGER and MATT FLEGENHEIMER: “The new legislation would sharply limit the president’s ability to suspend or terminate the sanctions -- a remarkable handcuffing by a Republican-led Congress six months into Mr. Trump’s tenure. ... Now, Mr. Trump could soon face a decision he hoped to avoid: veto the bill -- a move that would fuel accusations that he is doing the bidding of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia -- or sign legislation imposing sanctions his administration has opposed.” http://nyti.ms/2uNkXFv
PETER BAKER in the NYT, “Trump’s Attack on Russia Inquiry Is From Familiar Playbook: The Clintons’”: “More than eight months after his election, President Trump still attacks Hillary Clinton, disparaging her campaign and accusing her of illegality. ... But in one way, at least, Mrs. Clinton has become something of a role model for Mr. Trump. As he faces the sort of politically charged investigation that dogged Bill and Hillary Clinton when they were in the White House in the 1990s, Mr. Trump has consciously adopted a strategy from the Clintons’ playbook. Much as the Clintons did, Mr. Trump is assembling a team of lawyers both inside and outside the White House to draw issues related to the investigation away from the rest of the West Wing.
“And he has embarked on a campaign to discredit the investigators before they can even get very far in their investigation, hoping to do to Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, what the Clintons did to Kenneth W. Starr, the independent counsel.Advisers to Mr. Trump have studied and privately expressed admiration for the no-holds-barred way the Clintons attacked Mr. Starr’s integrity at every turn in an effort to shift attention from their conduct to his during the Whitewater and Monica S. Lewinsky investigations. The Clintons, Mr. Trump’s advisers said, knew how to ‘go to the mattresses,’ a phrase sometimes used approvingly in this White House, and they added that they were trying to do the same thing.” http://nyti.ms/2gUyExc
Прощай! -- @RusEmbUSA: “Ambassador S.Kislyak has concluded his assignment in Washington, DC Minister-Counselor D.Gonchar will act as Chargé d’Affaires ad interim”.
SCARAMUCCI DELETES [email protected]: “Full transparency: I’m deleting old tweets. Past views evolved & shouldn’t be a distraction. I serve @POTUS agenda & that’s all that matters” … “The politics of ‘gotcha’ are over. I have a thick skin and we're moving on to @POTUS agenda serving the American people”.
-- “Read Anthony Scaramucci’s old tweets. You’ll understand why he deleted them,” by WaPo’s Kristine Phillips: “New White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci hasn't always shared the political views of the administration he now serves. In previous tweets, the Wall Street financier called Hillary Clinton ‘incredibly competent” and appeared to be at odds with his new boss on issues such as gun control, climate change, Islam and illegal immigration …
“In a pair of 2012 tweets, one of which has not yet been deleted, he said that the United States has too many guns and that he’s ‘always been for strong gun control laws.’ ‘We (the USA) has 5% of the world’s population but 50% of the world’s guns,’ he wrote in the deleted tweet. ‘Enough is enough. It is just common sense it apply more controls.’ … Scaramucci also praised former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney in 2011 for staying out of the ‘Trump spectacle’ and called former House speaker Newt Gingrich, a Trump ally, an ‘odd guy’ who’s ‘so smart with no judgment.’” http://wapo.st/2eFyid7
MAKE GERMANY GREAT AGAIN -- “Germans are learning to love Germany again, and Merkel takes note,” by WaPo’s Isaac Stanley Becker in Berlin: “Germans’ wary attitude toward patriotism and the idea of a national culture is decades old. But circumstances both global and domestic are forcing a reconsideration. As the country decides how it might serve as a custodian of the liberal international order, it is also sorting out how to integrate migrants who began arriving in enormous numbers in 2015. Both undertakings bear crucially on German values -- and on the issue of whether a unified set of national principles even exists.” http://wapo.st/2uoGXEl
YIKES! -- “How ISIS nearly stumbled on the ingredients for a ‘dirty bomb,’” by WaPo’s Joby Warrick and Loveday Morris: “On the day the Islamic State overran the Iraqi city of Mosul in 2014, it laid claim to one of the greatest weapons bonanzas ever to fall to a terrorist group: a large metropolis dotted with military bases and garrisons stocked with guns, bombs, rockets and even battle tanks. But the most fearsome weapon in Mosul on that day was never used by the terrorists. ... Locked away in a storage room on a Mosul college campus were two caches of cobalt-60, a metallic substance with lethally high levels of radiation. ...
“In terrorists’ hands, it is the core ingredient of a ‘dirty bomb,’ a weapon that could be used to spread radiation and panic. Western intelligence agencies were aware of the cobalt and watched anxiously for three years for signs that the militants might try to use it. Those concerns intensified in late 2014 when Islamic State officials boasted of obtaining radioactive material, and again early last year when the terrorists took over laboratories at the same Mosul college campus with the apparent aim of building new kinds of weapons.” http://wapo.st/2uoCu4r
WHAT AMERICA IS READING -- THE BIRMINGHAM NEWS (Ala.): “Alabama ‘Dreamers’ living on edge ... Future is uncertain for those brought to U.S. illegally as children” http://bit.ly/2vN4xdq … DENVER POST: “Colorado Divide … Rural-urban chasm runs through culture, economy and politics of state” http://bit.ly/2tBH9mJ … PALM BEACH POST: “Voter fraud probe comes to naught … Case being dropped after detectives examining absentee ballot allegations in county races can’t single out a suspect” http://bit.ly/2tB3DnL … CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER: “Ohioans’ reaction mixed on failed bill … Some are relieved, some still anti-ACA” http://bit.ly/2undnAR
PIC DU JOUR -- @MeghanMcCain: “Amazing hike with Dad @SenJohnMcCain this morning. Thank you all for your best wishes!” http://bit.ly/2uNvmRu
THE JUICE …
-- THE CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP FUND got a half-million dollars from Hillwood Development Company on June 30. Hillwood is run by Ross Perot Jr.
BULLETIN -- “Police: 8 dead in truck, 20 dire in immigrant smuggling case,” by AP’s Eric Gay in San Antonio: “Authorities called to a Walmart parking lot in San Antonio overnight found eight people dead and 20 others in dire condition in the back of a sweltering tractor-trailer, in what police are calling a horrific case of immigrant smuggling. The truck’s driver was arrested and all 28 survivors were taken to hospitals, where 20 were in extremely critical or serious condition ... Temperatures in San Antonio reached 101 degrees (38 Celsius) on Saturday and didn’t dip below 90 degrees (32 C) until after 10 p.m., according to the National Weather Service. The truck’s trailer also didn’t have a working air conditioner system.” http://bit.ly/2uMIlDr
2018 WATCH -- “McCaskill plays watchdog ahead of tough 2018 race,” by Elana Schor in Monroe City, Missouri: “Claire McCaskill has sought to cultivate a familiar brand during her decade in the Senate: the dogged investigator, eager to ferret out waste, fraud and abuse. And the Missouri Democrat has found her next target in the pharmaceutical industry. Talking to voters earlier this month in this tiny, deep-red rural town, McCaskill compared the drug-makers who deny the addictive properties of opioids to cigarette makers that ‘told people for years that tobacco is not bad for your health.’
“‘We can’t do nothing,’ she added at a sweltering seniors’ center, during what was her eighth appearance in a 10-stop town hall swing. As the top Democrat on the Senate’s governmental affairs committee, McCaskill is using her oversight authority to probe the opioid industry’s marketing, trying to decipher how the highly addictive drugs sparked a wave of overdoses across the country. Her scrutiny of the opioid epidemic, which has raged across her Midwestern state, also offers McCaskill a chance to burnish her credentials on an issue of bipartisan concern. She’s going to need it ahead of what’s already turning out to be a bitter re-election battle in a state Donald Trump won by 19 points.” http://politi.co/2eFpUdB
-- “Meet the lab-coat liberals,” by California Playbooker David Siders in Los Angeles: “The lab-coat liberals are marching on Washington. Dismayed by President Donald Trump’s perceived hostility to climate science and other areas of research, a surge of scientists is entering the public arena and running for political office for the first time. They represent an evolving brand of Democrat that has been gaining steam for months. What began with rogue Twitter accounts and protest marches has graduated into candidacies in House races in places as varied as California, Texas, Pennsylvania and New York. The handful of scientists who have formally announced their candidacies so far — and the others who are preparing to join them — have cast themselves as a counterforce to the Trump administration’s dismissal of climate science and de-prioritization of innovation funding.” http://politi.co/2vxObGe
TIM ALBERTA and ZACK STANTON in POLITICO Magazine: “Senator Kid Rock. Don’t Laugh: Consensus formed at warp speed that Kid Rock’s possible U.S. Senate bid shouldn’t be taken seriously. That’s a huge mistake”: “Yes, healthy skepticism is warranted: Not a single prominent Republican in Michigan told us they’d heard from Ritchie or his associates about a campaign. ... [But] he’s earned a reputation in his native southeast Michigan as someone who is earnest when it comes to civic involvement, helping local businesses and headlining major philanthropic events. When Mitt Romney asked for his endorsement ahead of the pivotal Michigan primary in 2012, Ritchie invited him to his Metro Detroit home and peppered him with a list of policy questions, sleeping on the decision before informing Romney the next day he would support him.” http://politi.co/2uV8rEW
BEYOND THE BELTWAY -- “What early fundraising in California says about the race for Congress: Some incumbents are behind,” by L.A. Times’ Sarah D. Wire and Christine Mai-Duc: http://lat.ms/2uMIVBb
BONUS GREAT WEEKEND READS, curated by Daniel Lippman:
--“Atul Gawande on Priorities, Big and Small” – Medium: “The surgeon, researcher, and celebrated writer joined Tyler [Cowen] for a conversation on why Watson will never diagnose your illness, what George Church’s narcolepsy teaches us about CRISPR, what’s missing in medical education, Michael Crichton’s cultural influence, Knausgård versus Ferrante, indie music, why Gawande is a terrible patient, and the thing that makes him ‘bawl like a baby.’” http://bit.ly/2gRdnUQ
--“Unlocking the Secrets Behind the Hummingbird’s Frenzy,” by Brendan Borrell in NatGeo: “The smallest can weigh less than two grams. The largest, the giant hummingbird found in Peru and Chile, tips the scales at 20 grams. You could send something that weight in the mail with a single first-class stamp.” http://on.natgeo.com/2uRc26S
--“How a Saudi Prince Unseated His Cousin to Become the Kingdom’s Heir Apparent,” by WSJ’s Justin Scheck, Shane Harris, and Summer Said: “Mohammed bin Salman, known to many as ‘MBS,’ knelt and kissed his older cousin’s hand. At that point it would have been clear to Mohammed bin Nayef that his long career … was over, say people familiar with the royal court. ‘When MBS kisses you,’ says one of these people, ‘you know something bad will happen.’” http://on.wsj.com/2uNDly8
--“Youth From Every Quarter,” by Kirstin Valdez Quade in Longreads: “A teacher at an elite boarding school confronts her own confused leap up the ladder of class privilege.” http://bit.ly/2gRcc7S
--“How Checkers Was Solved,” by The Atlantic’s Alexis C. Madrigal: “Marion Tinsley — math professor, minister, and the best checkers player in the world — sat across a game board from a computer, dying. Tinsley had been the world’s best for 40 years, a time during which he’d lost a handful of games to humans, but never a match. It’s possible no single person had ever dominated a competitive pursuit the way Tinsley dominated checkers. But this was a different sort of competition: the Man-Machine World Championship.” http://theatln.tc/2tOuLuU (h/t The Browser)
--“The Rise and Fall of F. Lee Bailey, the Lawyer Who Set O.J. Simpson Free,”by Andrew Goldman in Town and Country: “More than 20 years ago, Bailey helped Simpson beat murder charges. Now ... the bankrupt, disbarred Bailey opens up about his own incredible saga.” http://bit.ly/2tnDR2l
--“Globalisation: the rise and fall of an idea that swept the world,” by Nikil Saval in The Guardian: “It’s not just a populist backlash – many economists who once swore by free trade have changed their minds, too. How had they got it so wrong?” http://bit.ly/2ujZjGK
--“20 Years Later Highway to Hell,” by Greg Bishop in SI in June 2014: “After riveting the nation with the bronco chase and dividing it with the trial of the century, O.J. Simpson settled into a strange new life as a celebrity pariah. Now behind bars for unrelated crimes, he’s as much a mystery as ever to friends—and perhaps to himself.” http://on.si.com/2uIiIUl
--“A Son’s Race to Give His Dying Father Artificial Immortality,” by James Vlahos in Wired – per Longform’s description: “As a father succumbs to lung cancer, his son tries to recreate his personality in the form of a chatbot.” http://bit.ly/2uI0Okk
--“‘America First’: Who Really Wins?” by Ian Bremmer in the Friday cover of POLITICO Magazine: “Top 10 winners from Trump’s foreign policy.” http://politi.co/2uJuZY2
--“Fyre Festival: Anatomy of a Millennial Marketing Fiasco Waiting to Happen,”by Bryan Burrough in the August issue of Vanity Fair: “Billy McFarland sold elite millennials (and his investors) on an ultra-luxurious ‘Coachella in the Bahamas,’ but the much-ridiculed fiasco that actually took place in April derailed the 25-year-old serial entrepreneur’s checkered bid for moguldom. Inside what could be the biggest scam of the year.” http://bit.ly/2to6c8l
--“10,000 Hours With Claude Shannon: How A Genius Thinks, Works, and Lives,” by Rob Goodman and Jimmy Soni, authors of “A Mind at Play: How Claude Shannon Invented the Information Age,” in Medium: “We got up-close-and-personal with a genius for five years. Here are 12 things we learned.” http://bit.ly/2uNiU4n ...$17.68 on Amazonhttp://amzn.to/2umV0M8
--“The 30-Year-Old Texas Tycoon [Nate Paul] Who Is Building A Real Estate Empire,” by Forbes’ Nathan Vardi: http://bit.ly/2uI7BKU
MEDIAWATCH -- “Scaramucci praises Breitbart in first interview since communications appointment,” by Brent Griffiths: “‘One of the things Breitbart has done is you’ve captured the spirit of what’s actually going on in the country,’ Scaramucci told [Matt] Boyle during an interview on ‘Breitbart News Saturday’ on SiriusXM. Scaramucci further joked with Boyle that he was surprised the editor had not sent in his resume for West Wing consideration yet.” http://politi.co/2tB18Sq … The full interviewhttp://bit.ly/2uMtzfV
--JEN PALMIERI in the WaPo, “The clock may have just run out on the White House press corps”:http://wapo.st/2uogFSJ
SPOTTED: Chris Christie at the Mets v. A’s game last night … Joe Biden and Amy Schumer yesterday at “Dear Evan Hansen” on Broadway ... Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) with his family yesterday at the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery with plain clothed security detail
WEEKEND WEDDINGS -- “Samantha Swietlikowski, Ben Strauss” -- N.Y. Times: “The couple met at Ithaca College, from which the groom graduated. The bride attended Ithaca for two years before transferring to Cornell, from which she graduated cum laude. Mrs. Strauss, 29, is a lawyer in the Washington office of Katten Muchin Rosenman, the Chicago law firm. She received a law degree from the University of California, Hastings College of the Law in San Francisco. ... Mr. Strauss, 31, is a Washington-based freelance writer and author. He writes about sports and politics for The New York Times and Politico Magazine. He also co-wrote ‘Indentured: The Inside Story of the Rebellion Against the NCAA,’ with Joe Nocera.” http://nyti.ms/2vxZrT7
--“Christina Kaiser, Emad Salem”: “The bride, 34, and groom, 33, met at American University in Washington, from which the groom graduated with a dual bachelor’s degree in economics and international studies, and where the bride graduated magna cum laude and received a master’s degree in intercultural and international service.Ms. Kaiser is a corporate communications director in New York for APCO Worldwide, a public affairs and strategic communications consultancy. ... Mr. Salem, is the vice president and the chief operating officer for Battery Dance Company, a nonprofit organization in New York that uses the arts for public diplomacy. He received a master’s degree in international affairs from Columbia.” With pichttp://nyti.ms/2vynfGs
ENGAGED -- Austin Walton, a legislative assistant for Rep. Rob Wittman (R-Va.), recently got engaged to Vaneese Cope, manager of political affairs at the Dow Chemical Company. He proposed at her childhood river house in Weeki Wachee, Florida, then celebrated with family and friends in St. Petersburg. She emails us: “We met here in DC through a mutual friend who used to live in DC and was in town visiting. It was three and a half years ago at a Sunday brunch [at Madhatter] where he asked our friend for my number. It took him a few days to reach out, but we never stopped hanging out after that!” Pichttp://bit.ly/2uMyPQw
WELCOME TO THE WORLD -- Cory Bythrow, deputy chief of staff at the American Federation of Government Employees, and Julianne Bongiorno Bythrow welcomed Caroline Elizabeth Bythrow, who “was born squarely on her due date at 10:52 p.m. Friday night. Welcomed by an equal parts exhausted (40 hours of labor!) and elated (thank goodness she doesn’t have daddy’s nose!) Mom and Dad, she weighed in at a healthy 8lbs 1 ounce.” Pichttp://bit.ly/2uoN7V6
-- Alexandra Tripiano, a Lieutenant in the U.S. Navy, and former director of communications operations at AEI, and Jim Tripiano, VP of advisory services at Second Front Systems, email friends and family: “Jim and I are so thrilled to announce that we welcomed Penelope Claire Tripiano into the world on Thursday at 11:49 a.m. She was delivered at Inova Alexandria Hospital, weighing 7 lbs 8 ounces and measuring a whopping 22 inches. Mom and Dad are both so thrilled to finally meet their Sweet Pea. She spent her first evening getting read her first book, the ‘ABCs of Washington DC,’ complete with editorial comments from dad.” Pichttp://bit.ly/2uNhSW0
TRANSITIONS -- The NAACP has named Derrick Johnson as its interim president and CEO. He was previously vice chairman of the board of directors.
BIRTHWEEK (was yesterday): Emily Carpeaux, PBS NewsHour senior producer for field segments (hat tip: Nick Massella)
BIRTHDAYS: Nancy Hamlin ... David Brock (h/t Bradley Beychok) ... Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy ... Monica Lewinsky ... Don Imus ... Adam Mohabbat ... Fritz Brogan, national co-chair of Maverick PAC and D.C. restaurateur (h/ts Blake Waggoner and Ryan Williams) ... CNN publicist Liza Pluto (h/t Lauren Pratapas) ... The Economist’s Lane Greene ... Matt Shilling ... John Mihalec, former White House speechwriter for President Ford ... Eric Werwa ... Caleb Zigas ... wine critic Robert Parker Jr. ... Politico’s Kat Borgerding and Sam Barnes … Sujata Thomas, a Fareed Zakaria alum … Melinda Wittstock ... Catherine O’Donnell ... Carolyn Vadino … Alex Pareene, politics editor for Fusion ... Matt Jeanneret, SVP of comms and marketing at the American Road & Transportation Builders Association and an alum Al Simpson and Bush 41 administration, is 5-0 (h/t wife Elizabeth) ...
... Melissa Brown, press secretary for Rep. Ted Budd (R-N.C.), is 26 (h/ts Sarah Westwood, Sophie White, and Maddy Weast) ... Georgetown law professor and tax expert Itai Grinberg ... Marshall Schraibman ... WaPo’s Perry Stein ... Square’s Joey Rault ... DOT’s Aaron Moore … former Rep. John Hall (D-N.Y.) ... Tracie Pough ... Josh Gross, VP at Glover Park Group ... Brooks Emanuel ... Melinda Wittstock ... Michael Bruce Hill ... Katherine Boucher ... Cathy Whaley ... David Dewit ... Jeremy D. Goodwin … Jim Thompson … Dan Pink … Brooks Emanuel (h/ts Teresa Vilmain)
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2017.06.14 15:53 -babygay- Confused baby gay on meeting girls

Okay so I'm 16. I go to a Christian school, so I'm not really expecting to meet girls there. So looking towards the future....it still seems like it's so hard to meet girls!
I mean the college I most likely go to is very LGBT-friendly and they have a lesbian meetup group and a general LGBT group, as well as other events. But after that...it seems like there's nothing out there! I live near NYC, Philly, and Boston, and after some googling, I feel pretty down.
I mean there's 3 of the biggest cities and it seems like my options are limited to: online dating, a few lesbian bars, speed dating once a year, a few book clubs, and like 3 general "Lesbian and gay" groups.
Where do lesbians meet other girls?!?
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2017.06.13 05:43 nba_draft The Most Correct Mock Draft 1-10

Hello friends. Like many sports fans I think everyone else is wrong and my takes are the most correct. I follow the draft a lot and after hearing some people (with an NBA draft podcast none the less) have some incredibly bad takes I decided I should either try doing it for myself or kindly STFU. I think most mock drafts don't offer enough rational to explain their decisions and don't mention enough other possibilities. I have tried to provide that here while aggregating lots of good view points from many different sources that took me a lot of searching to find. As a result this is a pretty long read but I am really interested to hear other people's opinions before I commit even more time to perhaps doing a full first round mock. I stopped writing as much about the later picks because like I said I was spending a lot of time on this and I want to get it out there and get some feedback before I commit even more time to it. Let's begin
1. Boston Celtics Markelle Fultz, PG, 6’4, Washington (Freshman)
Fultz is the rare prospect that has no true weakness and is the most complete scorer to enter the league in recent memory. Fultz is capable of scoring from all three levels. He is an above average but not elite athlete however he uses his near 7 foot wingspan and tremendous body control to make difficult shots at the rim and can finish around bigger defenders. One of Fultz’s greatest strengths is his ability in the pick and roll where he frequently makes advanced reads and is able to use his size to elevate and consistently knock-down midrange jumpers. Fultz does not have the quickest first step but uses his combination of size and dribble moves to create separation and get open shots. Fultz is a good but not elite shooter from distance and is capable of creating his own shot as well as off the catch. Fultz’s passing is overshadowed by that of Lonzo Ball but he is still a comfortably above average passer.
Fultz is a competent defender with the potential to improve considerably because of his size. He sometimes seemed to take plays off on defense at Washington but that could be a function of being tired from being asked to do everything for the team on offense more than anything else.
The greatest knock on Fultz is that he was unable to elevate his atrocious Washington team to even a .500 record. However, watching the games it was obvious that his teammates just weren't good enough. Fultz doesn't have any off-court baggage and isn’t known to be a bad teammate. Because of this his team’s record shouldn't be a concern for GMs.
Assuming they keep the pick Fultz is a great fit for the Celtics who need another player who can create his own offense. The Celtics have many other guards but they are all undersized and short of Isaiah Thomas (haha) are not go-to scorers. Fultz is capable of either playing alongside Thomas or replacing him down the road.
2. Los Angeles Lakers Lonzo Ball, PG, 6’6, UCLA (Freshman)
Ball has good size and is in some ways a near perfect modern NBA point as almost all of his shots are threes or layups. There are concerns about his unconventional shooting form but he seems comfortable with it and for the way he plays it shouldn't be an issue because it is only particularly hindering in the midrange. He brings the ball to the left side which makes it very hard for him to shoot off the dribble to the right but Ball is smart enough to avoid doing this with consistency. All said his shot form is certainly a concern but he seems to have a good grasp of it and in fact his release is actually 13% faster than the NBA average. Overall his shot should be seen as a plus.
Ball’s best quality is his ability to run an offense and change the culture of a team. His passing is infectious and he particularly outstanding in transition where he always keeps his eyes up court looking for an outlet pass but is also capable of getting to the rim and finishing. This skill should translate to the NBA game.
Ball is not a great on ball defender but he uses his intelligence and reactions to jump into the passing lanes and generate steals. This reminds me of Steph Curry who like Ball is not an elite defender but manages to create steals and fast break opportunities for his team.
By all accounts Ball is a great teammate and person. For all the grief and attention he gets because of his father LaVar I have never heard a bad thing about Lonzo and he has to my knowledge no off-court troubles. Some may be scared off by LaVar and are afraid of having him around but Lonzo has been in the spotlight for years, particularly at UCLA, and he handles it tremendously well and does not let it effect his game. They are clearly a very close family and I don’t think it will be a problem. Lonzo is too good of a prospect to pass-up over concerns about his family and in the context of other prospects “off-court” such as run-ins with the law this seems like an increasingly trivial matter.
Ball is a unique prospect whose best qualities do not translate well to traditional pre-draft workouts which is what I partially attribute to his “slide” and the buzz that the Lakers were not blown-away by his workout. However, I think he is the second best prospect in this draft and I think they will take him. There will be concerns about the team’s defense but he fits coach Walton’s motion offense and from a business perspective will sell a lot of jerseys and help the Lakers reestablish their identity.
3. Philadelphia 76ers Josh Jackson, SF, 6’8, Kansas (Freshman)
This is where the draft gets very interesting. The Sixers need a guard and a wing and here they have the chance to get their choice of (in my opinion) the tier 3 prospects with this pick. There are players in this draft that fit those needs but I’m not sure they want to take them this high when they could get them lower. I would not be surprised if they traded down into the 5-9 range. If they keep the pick the general consensus is that they will choose between Jackson and Fox. Though both are players at positions of need they do not fulfill the role the Sixers really need which is that of a shot-maker.
Jackson is a good prospect and would help the Sixers immediately with his defensive versatility and his energy would be a welcome addition to the team as they try to transition to a winning mentality. He is a plus rebounder who uses his athleticism to make impressive plays around the rim, particularly when he gets a little open space to accelerate. He is an improving post-scorer and also a good passer for his position. He also has high upside in the cliched way we describe all athletic wings who can’t shoot; “If he figures out the jumper he could be…”. There are significant red flags with Jackson apart from the aforementioned shooting struggles. For one he is older than all but three players currently projected to go in the top 25 by DraftExpress. More troubling though is his off the court history. He was charged with misdemeanor property damage related to a December incident outside a Lawrence bar where he reportedly threatened to “beat” a Kansas women’s basketball player. He also was suspended for the Jayhawks Big 12 Tournament first round game (which they lost) for failing to notify the athletic department of a separate traffic incident from early February. He is a good prospect but any team that drafts him will have to feel comfortable with his character after meeting with him.
If they keep the pick I think he will be the selection for the Sixers but I would be weary of adding him to an already poor-shooting starting lineup that would include Ben Simmons and Dario Saric.
4. Phoenix Suns De’Aaron Fox, PG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
It is with these next two picks where I feel the impact of the Sixers’s decision will really be felt. The Suns are loaded with guard talent and after picking two front court players in the top 10 last year they do not appear to be in the market for the top big-men in this draft. Last year the Suns finished in the top 10 in points per game but finished last in points allowed so it is clear that they need defensive help. If the Sixers (or whoever makes the pick) passes on Jackson I believe the Suns would draft him in a heartbeat. However as I currently expect him to be off the board I expect the Suns to go in the direction of Fox, who while he adds to their backcourt bloat he also gives them the defensive help they desperately need.
Fox has a lot that you want from a point guard. His greatest strengths are his physical tools, particularly his speed and leaping ability. His shot is a concern but mechanically he is sound and I think he should be able to develop into a league average shooter, enough to keep offenses honest and allow him to do what he wants to do and get to the rim. Fox has a frail frame but he shows good body control and is better at finishing through contact at the rim than some of the other, bigger, guards in this class.
Fox uses his lateral quickness and his high motor to make himself a nuisance on defense. He does not have the defensive skills that another player the Suns may consider with this pick, Dennis Smith Jr., has, but he makes up for his less than stellar technique with his great instincts and commitment.
Reports are that GMs are very impressed with Fox during meetings and he is seen as one of the best people in this draft. He is a competitor on the court and off which is obvious when watching his visceral locker-room reaction after Kentucky’s NCAA tournament loss.
Some believe that the Suns are also considering Jayson Tatum with this pick but I do not see them going that direction because he would not address their defensive struggles and they already have competent scorers. Consider the drafting of another PG a referendum on the Suns future of Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight.
5. Sacramento Kings Dennis Smith, PG, 6’3, N.C. State (Freshman)
This is where the draft may get very messy and hard to predict. The Kings are reportedly enamored with De’Aaron Fox and may move this pick in a package with Philly to move up and get him. If they stay put I believe that they will be choosing between Smith and Tatum.
Smith is a player that I believe can make a big rise up draft boards between now and the draft. He is not expected to fall outside the top 10 but right now most mock drafts have him going between 8 and 10. I think he has the potential to go much higher, maybe as high as 3 to the Sixers because if they decide to go with a guard they will likely be choosing between Fox and Smith and Smith’s more consistent shooting from deep may move the needle enough for them to pull the trigger.
I believe that Smith is a top 6 prospect in this draft and we know that the Kings are interested in finding a replacement for Darren Collison to play with Buddy Hield. Smith has decent height for a PG and his wingspan leaves something to be desired but he makes up for that with explosive athleticism.
On offense Smith is a decent shooter from range and is a plus finisher around the rim where he uses his body to absorb contact and make some acrobatic finishes. He is also a good passer who occasionally tries to thread the needle too much which results in more turnovers than coaches like to see.
Defensively Smith has shown that he has the potential to be a very good defender but this past season his effort was questioned. This is the greatest knock on Smith, that he didn’t do enough to help his team win and seemed to tune-out of games. This is apparent some games but at other times when he is fully engaged he is a captivating player to watch which makes you remember why at one point he was in the top three of many big boards coming into the year and at the beginning of the season. We must also remember that he was not in a great situation at NCST where the coaching staff was fired mid-season and many players who were expected to contribute regressed and caused problems.
Players like De’Aaron Fox and Jayson Tatum have both seen their stocks rise recently and I believe that the same will soon happen for Smith who is rumored to be working out for teams in the top three. I anticipate the conversation of Ball vs Fox giving way to a conversation of Fox vs Smith as I believe that they are similar players.
Some mocks have the Kings picking Tatum here at 5 and Smith at 10 but I seriously doubt that Smith will be available at 10 on draft night and I have heard from and tend to agree with others that Tatum is being overvalued. More on that below.
6. Orlando Magic Jayson Tatum, SF, 6’8, Duke (Freshman)
I would like to preface this by saying that I think Tatum is a good player and can be a good player in the NBA, however… I’m not sold on the idea of him being a top prospect in a draft as deep as this one. Tatum looks the part of an NBA small forward right now standing 6’8 with a near 7 foot wingspan and broad shoulders. This has been one of his strengths dating back to high school. However he lacks elite athleticism and lateral quickness which I believe will limit his upside. He struggles to create for himself off the dribble against better competition and was the beneficiary of being frequently guarded by power forwards at Duke. Similarly there are questions as to whether he can guard NBA small forwards meaning he may be better frequently sliding down as a stretch-four.
Tatum is seen by many to be “NBA ready”. I hate this term; its so ambiguous and it means different things for different prospects and people reading it. What people really mean when discussing Tatum is that he has a low floor and I tend to agree with that. This almost plays into my concern with taking Tatum so high, at worst I think he can be a serviceable first or second option on a perpetually bad team (hello Magic). This sounds good but I’m not sure if it is. I feel like I already know the kind of player Tatum is and the role that he will play on an NBA roster.
Tatum could also be a genuine star but I think this depends on two things, shot-selection and three point shooting. He was below average on catch and shoot jumpers, frequently settled for contested pull up threes, and often played iso ball looking to get off his jumper. Cleaning up this part of his game will be essential for him to be able to contribute on a well balanced playoff team.
Tatum shot 35% from three this year which would put him around the NBA average, however he was an incredibly streaky shooter so that number does not tell the whole story. He could either take over games or disappear if his shot wasn't falling. I saw him in person at his best where on the road against a top 15 team and one of the best defenses in the country he took over down the stretch and almost single handily won Duke the game. He shot 6-7 from three, scored 28 points and on that night looked like a star. But a little over a week later he scored 8 points on 4-16 shooting and 0-7 from behind the arc in a loss. Whether you think he is worthy of a top pick largely depends on if you think he can straighten these two things out. I believe he needs to go to a team with a good coach that will hold him accountable for taking bad shots. Until he does that I don’t think he can be a good shooter or a contributor on a good team.
7. Minnesota Timberwolves Jonathan Isaac, SF/PF, 6’11, Florida State (Freshman)
I cannot express how perfect of a fit I think this is for the Timberwolves. They will also consider Markkanen but I think Isaac is the clear choice for a number of reasons. First I think he is the best prospect available. Second, he fills a positional need. Isaac plays a little small forward but I think he is better long-term at the four where his greatest strength, his rim protection, will be better utilized. Also, at the four his shooting and offensive creation will be above average instead of below were he a three. Tom Thibodeau is a defensive coach and as the best defensive prospect in this draft he will love Isaac. Further, Isaac is an even greater fit with the Wolves because at FSU he was not the primary (or even secondary) option most of the time and he still remained very efficient and scored at a respectable rate. In a Wolves starting lineup with Rubio or Dunn, Isaac will be counted on as a 4th option at best. This is a role he has proven himself capable of thriving in.
8. New York Knicks Malik Monk, SG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
Monk is an interesting prospect. When he is on he may be the best pure scorer in this draft (remember the 47 he dropped against the eventual champions UNC?) and that makes him attractive for a lot of teams. He is prone to going cold but he generally doesn't let that effect his confidence or make him not play his game. Most of the concern around Monk revolves around his size. At 6’4 with a 6’3 wingspan he is undersized for an NBA shooting guard and is a work in progress on the defensive end. However, he is an elite leaper which helps mitigate some of the concern. With his size some teams may try to play him at point but he does not have experience at the position and his ability to transition is under question.
I would not be surprised if the Sixers traded back from three to be able to take him at a place they feel more comfortable (probably anywhere outside the top four) because he offers the outside scoring they need and he should be able to guard opposing points with Ben Simmons guarding other positions on defense. He is not a great fit for the Knicks but he may be the best player available at this point and with Carmelo appearing not long for New York the Knicks will need to find another outside scorer for the future. I also would not be surprised if the Knicks went in the direction of Frank Ntilinka if they believe he can be their lead guard of the future. A duo of Porzingis and Markkanen could also be very enticing. The Knicks are probably just outside the range of the tier three prospects but in a draft this deep they are hardly in a bad spot and should be able to pickup a long term starter.
9. Dallas Mavericks Frank Ntilinka, PG, 6’5, France (18 years old)
Ntilinka is very long and raw. At just under 19 years old he is the second youngest player currently projected to go in the first round. As an international prospect who has yet to be released for any athletic testing or team workouts/interviews we do not know his exact measurements but his wingspan appears to be longer than average for either guard spot. He is a quality shooter from deep and because of this in addition to his length he should be able to play some shooting guard at the NBA level but as of now he projects as a point. Right now he seems to lack some explosion which is particularly noticeable during his first step. He will never be a truly explosive athlete like some of the other top guards in this class but as his body fills out I would not be surprised if he adds explosiveness.
If he does not go to the Knicks at 8 I expect him to go to the Mavs who have long had one of the best international scouting departments in the league. I do not think the Mavs consider Yogi Ferrell to be their point guard of the future. Rick Carlisle is an elite coach who despite his poor track record in developing prospects has rarely had a prospect as good at Ntilinka and his style of slowly brining along rookies should be just what Ntilinka needs at this stage. Don’t expect him to contend for rookie of the year, but three years down the road don’t be surprised if we look back at him as a steal.
10. Sacremento Kings OG Anunoby, SF, 6’8, Indiana (Sophomore)
This is a very hard pick to predict and it is dependent on what they do earlier in the draft. Especially given the recent news that Rudy Gay will opt-out the Kings are in need of a wing which means that if they pick a guard at 5 I expect them to reach for a player like OG or Justin Jackson. Whereas the top 10 is dominated by guards the next ten best players are primarily front court players.
The best players available here are probably Markkanen or Collins of Gonzaga but the Kings are not in need of front court help due to the presence of Willie Cauley-Stein, Skal Labissiere, and Georgios Papagannis who I do not think they are ready to give up on after using the 13th pick on last year. The next best prospects are probably Donovan Mitchell of Louisville or (in the eyes of some at least) Luke Kennard of Duke but I would not expect the Kings to draft another SG since they apparently think Buddy Hield will be the next Steph Curry. I think they will go with Anunoby here over Jackson because of his athleticism and ability to guard four positions. He has a freakishly long wingspan (7’2) and absurd 6.8% body fat. If he regains the athleticism he once had after his knee injury he could be the best athlete in the draft and a real defensive monster who is a capable outside shooter. He has an injury history and is one of the biggest unknowns in the draft but with two top ten picks the Kings are in a position where they can take a flyer on a player like OG.
I have tried to be unbiased and professional though all this but… that being said they are the Kings and I fully expect them to pick someone out of left field, way too high, and at a position they don't need help at. Maybe Terrence Ferguson or TJ Leaf.
If you made it this far I sincerely thank you and would love any feedback I get.
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2017.06.13 05:14 nba_draft The Most Correct NBA Mock Draft 1-10

Hello friends. Like many sports fans I think everyone else is wrong and my takes are the most correct. I follow the draft a lot and after hearing some people (with an NBA draft podcast none the less) have some incredibly bad takes I decided I should either try doing it for myself or kindly STFU. I think most mock drafts don't offer enough rational to explain their decisions and don't mention enough other possibilities. I have tried to provide that here while aggregating lots of good view points from many different sources that took me a lot of searching to find. As a result this is a pretty long read but I am really interested to hear other people's opinions before I commit even more time to perhaps doing a full first round mock. I stopped writing as much about the later picks because like I said I was spending a lot of time on this and I want to get it out there and get some feedback before I commit even more time to it. Let's begin
1. Boston Celtics Markelle Fultz, PG, 6’4, Washington (Freshman)
Fultz is the rare prospect that has no true weakness and is the most complete scorer to enter the league in recent memory. Fultz is capable of scoring from all three levels. He is an above average but not elite athlete however he uses his near 7 foot wingspan and tremendous body control to make difficult shots at the rim and can finish around bigger defenders. One of Fultz’s greatest strengths is his ability in the pick and roll where he frequently makes advanced reads and is able to use his size to elevate and consistently knock-down midrange jumpers. Fultz does not have the quickest first step but uses his combination of size and dribble moves to create separation and get open shots. Fultz is a good but not elite shooter from distance and is capable of creating his own shot as well as off the catch. Fultz’s passing is overshadowed by that of Lonzo Ball but he is still a comfortably above average passer.
Fultz is a competent defender with the potential to improve considerably because of his size. He sometimes seemed to take plays off on defense at Washington but that could be a function of being tired from being asked to do everything for the team on offense more than anything else.
The greatest knock on Fultz is that he was unable to elevate his atrocious Washington team to even a .500 record. However, watching the games it was obvious that his teammates just weren't good enough. Fultz doesn't have any off-court baggage and isn’t known to be a bad teammate. Because of this his team’s record shouldn't be a concern for GMs.
Assuming they keep the pick Fultz is a great fit for the Celtics who need another player who can create his own offense. The Celtics have many other guards but they are all undersized and short of Isaiah Thomas (haha) are not go-to scorers. Fultz is capable of either playing alongside Thomas or replacing him down the road.
2. Los Angeles Lakers Lonzo Ball, PG, 6’6, UCLA (Freshman)
Ball has good size and is in some ways a near perfect modern NBA point as almost all of his shots are threes or layups. There are concerns about his unconventional shooting form but he seems comfortable with it and for the way he plays it shouldn't be an issue because it is only particularly hindering in the midrange. He brings the ball to the left side which makes it very hard for him to shoot off the dribble to the right but Ball is smart enough to avoid doing this with consistency. All said his shot form is certainly a concern but he seems to have a good grasp of it and in fact his release is actually 13% faster than the NBA average. Overall his shot should be seen as a plus.
Ball’s best quality is his ability to run an offense and change the culture of a team. His passing is infectious and he particularly outstanding in transition where he always keeps his eyes up court looking for an outlet pass but is also capable of getting to the rim and finishing. This skill should translate to the NBA game.
Ball is not a great on ball defender but he uses his intelligence and reactions to jump into the passing lanes and generate steals. This reminds me of Steph Curry who like Ball is not an elite defender but manages to create steals and fast break opportunities for his team.
By all accounts Ball is a great teammate and person. For all the grief and attention he gets because of his father LaVar I have never heard a bad thing about Lonzo and he has to my knowledge no off-court troubles. Some may be scared off by LaVar and are afraid of having him around but Lonzo has been in the spotlight for years, particularly at UCLA, and he handles it tremendously well and does not let it effect his game. They are clearly a very close family and I don’t think it will be a problem. Lonzo is too good of a prospect to pass-up over concerns about his family and in the context of other prospects “off-court” such as run-ins with the law this seems like an increasingly trivial matter.
Ball is a unique prospect whose best qualities do not translate well to traditional pre-draft workouts which is what I partially attribute to his “slide” and the buzz that the Lakers were not blown-away by his workout. However, I think he is the second best prospect in this draft and I think they will take him. There will be concerns about the team’s defense but he fits coach Walton’s motion offense and from a business perspective will sell a lot of jerseys and help the Lakers reestablish their identity.
3. Philadelphia 76ers Josh Jackson, SF, 6’8, Kansas (Freshman)
This is where the draft gets very interesting. The Sixers need a guard and a wing and here they have the chance to get their choice of (in my opinion) the tier 3 prospects with this pick. There are players in this draft that fit those needs but I’m not sure they want to take them this high when they could get them lower. I would not be surprised if they traded down into the 5-9 range. If they keep the pick the general consensus is that they will choose between Jackson and Fox. Though both are players at positions of need they do not fulfill the role the Sixers really need which is that of a shot-maker.
Jackson is a good prospect and would help the Sixers immediately with his defensive versatility and his energy would be a welcome addition to the team as they try to transition to a winning mentality. He is a plus rebounder who uses his athleticism to make impressive plays around the rim, particularly when he gets a little open space to accelerate. He is an improving post-scorer and also a good passer for his position. He also has high upside in the cliched way we describe all athletic wings who can’t shoot; “If he figures out the jumper he could be…”. There are significant red flags with Jackson apart from the aforementioned shooting struggles. For one he is older than all but three players currently projected to go in the top 25 by DraftExpress. More troubling though is his off the court history. He was charged with misdemeanor property damage related to a December incident outside a Lawrence bar where he reportedly threatened to “beat” a Kansas women’s basketball player. He also was suspended for the Jayhawks Big 12 Tournament first round game (which they lost) for failing to notify the athletic department of a separate traffic incident from early February. He is a good prospect but any team that drafts him will have to feel comfortable with his character after meeting with him.
If they keep the pick I think he will be the selection for the Sixers but I would be weary of adding him to an already poor-shooting starting lineup that would include Ben Simmons and Dario Saric.
4. Phoenix Suns De’Aaron Fox, PG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
It is with these next two picks where I feel the impact of the Sixers’s decision will really be felt. The Suns are loaded with guard talent and after picking two front court players in the top 10 last year they do not appear to be in the market for the top big-men in this draft. Last year the Suns finished in the top 10 in points per game but finished last in points allowed so it is clear that they need defensive help. If the Sixers (or whoever makes the pick) passes on Jackson I believe the Suns would draft him in a heartbeat. However as I currently expect him to be off the board I expect the Suns to go in the direction of Fox, who while he adds to their backcourt bloat he also gives them the defensive help they desperately need.
Fox has a lot that you want from a point guard. His greatest strengths are his physical tools, particularly his speed and leaping ability. His shot is a concern but mechanically he is sound and I think he should be able to develop into a league average shooter, enough to keep offenses honest and allow him to do what he wants to do and get to the rim. Fox has a frail frame but he shows good body control and is better at finishing through contact at the rim than some of the other, bigger, guards in this class.
Fox uses his lateral quickness and his high motor to make himself a nuisance on defense. He does not have the defensive skills that another player the Suns may consider with this pick, Dennis Smith Jr., has, but he makes up for his less than stellar technique with his great instincts and commitment.
Reports are that GMs are very impressed with Fox during meetings and he is seen as one of the best people in this draft. He is a competitor on the court and off which is obvious when watching his visceral locker-room reaction after Kentucky’s NCAA tournament loss.
Some believe that the Suns are also considering Jayson Tatum with this pick but I do not see them going that direction because he would not address their defensive struggles and they already have competent scorers. Consider the drafting of another PG a referendum on the Suns future of Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight.
5. Sacramento Kings Dennis Smith, PG, 6’3, N.C. State (Freshman)
This is where the draft may get very messy and hard to predict. The Kings are reportedly enamored with De’Aaron Fox and may move this pick in a package with Philly to move up and get him. If they stay put I believe that they will be choosing between Smith and Tatum.
Smith is a player that I believe can make a big rise up draft boards between now and the draft. He is not expected to fall outside the top 10 but right now most mock drafts have him going between 8 and 10. I think he has the potential to go much higher, maybe as high as 3 to the Sixers because if they decide to go with a guard they will likely be choosing between Fox and Smith and Smith’s more consistent shooting from deep may move the needle enough for them to pull the trigger.
I believe that Smith is a top 6 prospect in this draft and we know that the Kings are interested in finding a replacement for Darren Collison to play with Buddy Hield. Smith has decent height for a PG and his wingspan leaves something to be desired but he makes up for that with explosive athleticism.
On offense Smith is a decent shooter from range and is a plus finisher around the rim where he uses his body to absorb contact and make some acrobatic finishes. He is also a good passer who occasionally tries to thread the needle too much which results in more turnovers than coaches like to see.
Defensively Smith has shown that he has the potential to be a very good defender but this past season his effort was questioned. This is the greatest knock on Smith, that he didn’t do enough to help his team win and seemed to tune-out of games. This is apparent some games but at other times when he is fully engaged he is a captivating player to watch which makes you remember why at one point he was in the top three of many big boards coming into the year and at the beginning of the season. We must also remember that he was not in a great situation at NCST where the coaching staff was fired mid-season and many players who were expected to contribute regressed and caused problems.
Players like De’Aaron Fox and Jayson Tatum have both seen their stocks rise recently and I believe that the same will soon happen for Smith who is rumored to be working out for teams in the top three. I anticipate the conversation of Ball vs Fox giving way to a conversation of Fox vs Smith as I believe that they are similar players.
Some mocks have the Kings picking Tatum here at 5 and Smith at 10 but I seriously doubt that Smith will be available at 10 on draft night and I have heard from and tend to agree with others that Tatum is being overvalued. More on that below.
6. Orlando Magic Jayson Tatum, SF, 6’8, Duke (Freshman)
I would like to preface this by saying that I think Tatum is a good player and can be a good player in the NBA, however… I’m not sold on the idea of him being a top prospect in a draft as deep as this one. Tatum looks the part of an NBA small forward right now standing 6’8 with a near 7 foot wingspan and broad shoulders. This has been one of his strengths dating back to high school. However he lacks elite athleticism and lateral quickness which I believe will limit his upside. He struggles to create for himself off the dribble against better competition and was the beneficiary of being frequently guarded by power forwards at Duke. Similarly there are questions as to whether he can guard NBA small forwards meaning he may be better frequently sliding down as a stretch-four.
Tatum is seen by many to be “NBA ready”. I hate this term; its so ambiguous and it means different things for different prospects and people reading it. What people really mean when discussing Tatum is that he has a low floor and I tend to agree with that. This almost plays into my concern with taking Tatum so high, at worst I think he can be a serviceable first or second option on a perpetually bad team (hello Magic). This sounds good but I’m not sure if it is. I feel like I already know the kind of player Tatum is and the role that he will play on an NBA roster.
Tatum could also be a genuine star but I think this depends on two things, shot-selection and three point shooting. He was below average on catch and shoot jumpers, frequently settled for contested pull up threes, and often played iso ball looking to get off his jumper. Cleaning up this part of his game will be essential for him to be able to contribute on a well balanced playoff team.
Tatum shot 35% from three this year which would put him around the NBA average, however he was an incredibly streaky shooter so that number does not tell the whole story. He could either take over games or disappear if his shot wasn't falling. I saw him in person at his best where on the road against a top 15 team and one of the best defenses in the country he took over down the stretch and almost single handily won Duke the game. He shot 6-7 from three, scored 28 points and on that night looked like a star. But a little over a week later he scored 8 points on 4-16 shooting and 0-7 from behind the arc in a loss. Whether you think he is worthy of a top pick largely depends on if you think he can straighten these two things out. I believe he needs to go to a team with a good coach that will hold him accountable for taking bad shots. Until he does that I don’t think he can be a good shooter or a contributor on a good team.
7. Minnesota Timberwolves Jonathan Isaac, SF/PF, 6’11, Florida State (Freshman)
I cannot express how perfect of a fit I think this is for the Timberwolves. They will also consider Markkanen but I think Isaac is the clear choice for a number of reasons. First I think he is the best prospect available. Second, he fills a positional need. Isaac plays a little small forward but I think he is better long-term at the four where his greatest strength, his rim protection, will be better utilized. Also, at the four his shooting and offensive creation will be above average instead of below were he a three. Tom Thibodeau is a defensive coach and as the best defensive prospect in this draft he will love Isaac. Further, Isaac is an even greater fit with the Wolves because at FSU he was not the primary (or even secondary) option most of the time and he still remained very efficient and scored at a respectable rate. In a Wolves starting lineup with Rubio or Dunn, Isaac will be counted on as a 4th option at best. This is a role he has proven himself capable of thriving in.
8. New York Knicks Malik Monk, SG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
Monk is an interesting prospect. When he is on he may be the best pure scorer in this draft (remember the 47 he dropped against the eventual champions UNC?) and that makes him attractive for a lot of teams. He is prone to going cold but he generally doesn't let that effect his confidence or make him not play his game. Most of the concern around Monk revolves around his size. At 6’4 with a 6’3 wingspan he is undersized for an NBA shooting guard and is a work in progress on the defensive end. However, he is an elite leaper which helps mitigate some of the concern. With his size some teams may try to play him at point but he does not have experience at the position and his ability to transition is under question.
I would not be surprised if the Sixers traded back from three to be able to take him at a place they feel more comfortable (probably anywhere outside the top four) because he offers the outside scoring they need and he should be able to guard opposing points with Ben Simmons guarding other positions on defense. He is not a great fit for the Knicks but he may be the best player available at this point and with Carmelo appearing not long for New York the Knicks will need to find another outside scorer for the future. I also would not be surprised if the Knicks went in the direction of Frank Ntilinka if they believe he can be their lead guard of the future. A duo of Porzingis and Markkanen could also be very enticing. The Knicks are probably just outside the range of the tier three prospects but in a draft this deep they are hardly in a bad spot and should be able to pickup a long term starter.
9. Dallas Mavericks Frank Ntilinka, PG, 6’5, France (18 years old)
Ntilinka is very long and raw. At just under 19 years old he is the second youngest player currently projected to go in the first round. As an international prospect who has yet to be released for any athletic testing or team workouts/interviews we do not know his exact measurements but his wingspan appears to be longer than average for either guard spot. He is a quality shooter from deep and because of this in addition to his length he should be able to play some shooting guard at the NBA level but as of now he projects as a point. Right now he seems to lack some explosion which is particularly noticeable during his first step. He will never be a truly explosive athlete like some of the other top guards in this class but as his body fills out I would not be surprised if he adds explosiveness.
If he does not go to the Knicks at 8 I expect him to go to the Mavs who have long had one of the best international scouting departments in the league. I do not think the Mavs consider Yogi Ferrell to be their point guard of the future. Rick Carlisle is an elite coach who despite his poor track record in developing prospects has rarely had a prospect as good at Ntilinka and his style of slowly brining along rookies should be just what Ntilinka needs at this stage. Don’t expect him to contend for rookie of the year, but three years down the road don’t be surprised if we look back at him as a steal.
10. Sacremento Kings OG Anunoby, SF, 6’8, Indiana (Sophomore)
This is a very hard pick to predict and it is dependent on what they do earlier in the draft. Especially given the recent news that Rudy Gay will opt-out the Kings are in need of a wing which means that if they pick a guard at 5 I expect them to reach for a player like OG or Justin Jackson. Whereas the top 10 is dominated by guards the next ten best players are primarily front court players.
The best players available here are probably Markkanen or Collins of Gonzaga but the Kings are not in need of front court help due to the presence of Willie Cauley-Stein, Skal Labissiere, and Georgios Papagannis who I do not think they are ready to give up on after using the 13th pick on last year. The next best prospects are probably Donovan Mitchell of Louisville or (in the eyes of some at least) Luke Kennard of Duke but I would not expect the Kings to draft another SG since they apparently think Buddy Hield will be the next Steph Curry. I think they will go with Anunoby here over Jackson because of his athleticism and ability to guard four positions. He has a freakishly long wingspan (7’2) and absurd 6.8% body fat. If he regains the athleticism he once had after his knee injury he could be the best athlete in the draft and a real defensive monster who is a capable outside shooter. He has an injury history and is one of the biggest unknowns in the draft but with two top ten picks the Kings are in a position where they can take a flyer on a player like OG.
I have tried to be unbiased and professional though all this but… that being said they are the Kings and I fully expect them to pick someone out of left field, way too high, and at a position they don't need help at. Maybe Terrence Ferguson or TJ Leaf.
If you made it this far I sincerely thank you and would love any feedback I get. Note, I'm not a Lakers fan
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2017.06.13 04:23 nba_draft Most Correct Mock Draft 1-10

Hello friends. Like many sports fans I think everyone else is wrong and my takes are the most correct. I follow the draft a lot and after hearing some people (with an NBA draft podcast none the less) have some incredibly bad takes I decided I should either try doing it for myself or kindly STFU. I think most mock drafts don't offer enough rational to explain their decisions and don't mention enough other possibilities. I have tried to provide that here while aggregating lots of good view points from many different sources that took me a lot of searching to find. As a result this is a pretty long read but I am really interested to hear other people's opinions before I commit even more time to perhaps doing a full first round mock. I stopped writing as much about the later picks because like I said I was spending a lot of time on this and I want to get it out there and get some feedback before I commit even more time to it. Let's begin
1. Boston Celtics Markelle Fultz, PG, 6’4, Washington (Freshman)
Fultz is the rare prospect that has no true weakness and is the most complete scorer to enter the league in recent memory. Fultz is capable of scoring from all three levels. He is an above average but not elite athlete however he uses his near 7 foot wingspan and tremendous body control to make difficult shots at the rim and can finish around bigger defenders. One of Fultz’s greatest strengths is his ability in the pick and roll where he frequently makes advanced reads and is able to use his size to elevate and consistently knock-down midrange jumpers. Fultz does not have the quickest first step but uses his combination of size and dribble moves to create separation and get open shots. Fultz is a good but not elite shooter from distance and is capable of creating his own shot as well as off the catch. Fultz’s passing is overshadowed by that of Lonzo Ball but he is still a comfortably above average passer.
Fultz is a competent defender with the potential to improve considerably because of his size. He sometimes seemed to take plays off on defense at Washington but that could be a function of being tired from being asked to do everything for the team on offense more than anything else.
The greatest knock on Fultz is that he was unable to elevate his atrocious Washington team to even a .500 record. However, watching the games it was obvious that his teammates just weren't good enough. Fultz doesn't have any off-court baggage and isn’t known to be a bad teammate. Because of this his team’s record shouldn't be a concern for GMs.
Assuming they keep the pick Fultz is a great fit for the Celtics who need another player who can create his own offense. The Celtics have many other guards but they are all undersized and short of Isaiah Thomas (haha) are not go-to scorers. Fultz is capable of either playing alongside Thomas or replacing him down the road.
2. Los Angeles Lakers Lonzo Ball, PG, 6’6, UCLA (Freshman)
Ball has good size and is in some ways a near perfect modern NBA point as almost all of his shots are threes or layups. There are concerns about his unconventional shooting form but he seems comfortable with it and for the way he plays it shouldn't be an issue because it is only particularly hindering in the midrange. He brings the ball to the left side which makes it very hard for him to shoot off the dribble to the right but Ball is smart enough to avoid doing this with consistency. All said his shot form is certainly a concern but he seems to have a good grasp of it and in fact his release is actually 13% faster than the NBA average. Overall his shot should be seen as a plus.
Ball’s best quality is his ability to run an offense and change the culture of a team. His passing is infectious and he particularly outstanding in transition where he always keeps his eyes up court looking for an outlet pass but is also capable of getting to the rim and finishing. This skill should translate to the NBA game.
Ball is not a great on ball defender but he uses his intelligence and reactions to jump into the passing lanes and generate steals. This reminds me of Steph Curry who like Ball is not an elite defender but manages to create steals and fast break opportunities for his team.
By all accounts Ball is a great teammate and person. For all the grief and attention he gets because of his father LaVar I have never heard a bad thing about Lonzo and he has to my knowledge no off-court troubles. Some may be scared off by LaVar and are afraid of having him around but Lonzo has been in the spotlight for years, particularly at UCLA, and he handles it tremendously well and does not let it effect his game. They are clearly a very close family and I don’t think it will be a problem. Lonzo is too good of a prospect to pass-up over concerns about his family and in the context of other prospects “off-court” such as run-ins with the law this seems like an increasingly trivial matter.
Ball is a unique prospect whose best qualities do not translate well to traditional pre-draft workouts which is what I partially attribute to his “slide” and the buzz that the Lakers were not blown-away by his workout. However, I think he is the second best prospect in this draft and I think they will take him. There will be concerns about the team’s defense but he fits coach Walton’s motion offense and from a business perspective will sell a lot of jerseys and help the Lakers reestablish their identity.
3. Philadelphia 76ers Josh Jackson, SF, 6’8, Kansas (Freshman)
This is where the draft gets very interesting. The Sixers need a guard and a wing and here they have the chance to get their choice of (in my opinion) the tier 3 prospects with this pick. There are players in this draft that fit those needs but I’m not sure they want to take them this high when they could get them lower. I would not be surprised if they traded down into the 5-9 range. If they keep the pick the general consensus is that they will choose between Jackson and Fox. Though both are players at positions of need they do not fulfill the role the Sixers really need which is that of a shot-maker.
Jackson is a good prospect and would help the Sixers immediately with his defensive versatility and his energy would be a welcome addition to the team as they try to transition to a winning mentality. He is a plus rebounder who uses his athleticism to make impressive plays around the rim, particularly when he gets a little open space to accelerate. He is an improving post-scorer and also a good passer for his position. He also has high upside in the cliched way we describe all athletic wings who can’t shoot; “If he figures out the jumper he could be…”. There are significant red flags with Jackson apart from the aforementioned shooting struggles. For one he is older than all but three players currently projected to go in the top 25 by DraftExpress. More troubling though is his off the court history. He was charged with misdemeanor property damage related to a December incident outside a Lawrence bar where he reportedly threatened to “beat” a Kansas women’s basketball player. He also was suspended for the Jayhawks Big 12 Tournament first round game (which they lost) for failing to notify the athletic department of a separate traffic incident from early February. He is a good prospect but any team that drafts him will have to feel comfortable with his character after meeting with him.
If they keep the pick I think he will be the selection for the Sixers but I would be weary of adding him to an already poor-shooting starting lineup that would include Ben Simmons and Dario Saric.
4. Phoenix Suns De’Aaron Fox, PG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
It is with these next two picks where I feel the impact of the Sixers’s decision will really be felt. The Suns are loaded with guard talent and after picking two front court players in the top 10 last year they do not appear to be in the market for the top big-men in this draft. Last year the Suns finished in the top 10 in points per game but finished last in points allowed so it is clear that they need defensive help. If the Sixers (or whoever makes the pick) passes on Jackson I believe the Suns would draft him in a heartbeat. However as I currently expect him to be off the board I expect the Suns to go in the direction of Fox, who while he adds to their backcourt bloat he also gives them the defensive help they desperately need.
Fox has a lot that you want from a point guard. His greatest strengths are his physical tools, particularly his speed and leaping ability. His shot is a concern but mechanically he is sound and I think he should be able to develop into a league average shooter, enough to keep offenses honest and allow him to do what he wants to do and get to the rim. Fox has a frail frame but he shows good body control and is better at finishing through contact at the rim than some of the other, bigger, guards in this class.
Fox uses his lateral quickness and his high motor to make himself a nuisance on defense. He does not have the defensive skills that another player the Suns may consider with this pick, Dennis Smith Jr., has, but he makes up for his less than stellar technique with his great instincts and commitment.
Reports are that GMs are very impressed with Fox during meetings and he is seen as one of the best people in this draft. He is a competitor on the court and off which is obvious when watching his visceral locker-room reaction after Kentucky’s NCAA tournament loss.
Some believe that the Suns are also considering Jayson Tatum with this pick but I do not see them going that direction because he would not address their defensive struggles and they already have competent scorers. Consider the drafting of another PG a referendum on the Suns future of Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight.
5. Sacramento Kings Dennis Smith, PG, 6’3, N.C. State (Freshman)
This is where the draft may get very messy and hard to predict. The Kings are reportedly enamored with De’Aaron Fox and may move this pick in a package with Philly to move up and get him. If they stay put I believe that they will be choosing between Smith and Tatum.
Smith is a player that I believe can make a big rise up draft boards between now and the draft. He is not expected to fall outside the top 10 but right now most mock drafts have him going between 8 and 10. I think he has the potential to go much higher, maybe as high as 3 to the Sixers because if they decide to go with a guard they will likely be choosing between Fox and Smith and Smith’s more consistent shooting from deep may move the needle enough for them to pull the trigger.
I believe that Smith is a top 6 prospect in this draft and we know that the Kings are interested in finding a replacement for Darren Collison to play with Buddy Hield. Smith has decent height for a PG and his wingspan leaves something to be desired but he makes up for that with explosive athleticism.
On offense Smith is a decent shooter from range and is a plus finisher around the rim where he uses his body to absorb contact and make some acrobatic finishes. He is also a good passer who occasionally tries to thread the needle too much which results in more turnovers than coaches like to see.
Defensively Smith has shown that he has the potential to be a very good defender but this past season his effort was questioned. This is the greatest knock on Smith, that he didn’t do enough to help his team win and seemed to tune-out of games. This is apparent some games but at other times when he is fully engaged he is a captivating player to watch which makes you remember why at one point he was in the top three of many big boards coming into the year and at the beginning of the season. We must also remember that he was not in a great situation at NCST where the coaching staff was fired mid-season and many players who were expected to contribute regressed and caused problems.
Players like De’Aaron Fox and Jayson Tatum have both seen their stocks rise recently and I believe that the same will soon happen for Smith who is rumored to be working out for teams in the top three. I anticipate the conversation of Ball vs Fox giving way to a conversation of Fox vs Smith as I believe that they are similar players.
Some mocks have the Kings picking Tatum here at 5 and Smith at 10 but I seriously doubt that Smith will be available at 10 on draft night and I have heard from and tend to agree with others that Tatum is being overvalued. More on that below.
6. Orlando Magic Jayson Tatum, SF, 6’8, Duke (Freshman)
I would like to preface this by saying that I think Tatum is a good player and can be a good player in the NBA, however… I’m not sold on the idea of him being a top prospect in a draft as deep as this one. Tatum looks the part of an NBA small forward right now standing 6’8 with a near 7 foot wingspan and broad shoulders. This has been one of his strengths dating back to high school. However he lacks elite athleticism and lateral quickness which I believe will limit his upside. He struggles to create for himself off the dribble against better competition and was the beneficiary of being frequently guarded by power forwards at Duke. Similarly there are questions as to whether he can guard NBA small forwards meaning he may be better frequently sliding down as a stretch-four.
Tatum is seen by many to be “NBA ready”. I hate this term; its so ambiguous and it means different things for different prospects and people reading it. What people really mean when discussing Tatum is that he has a low floor and I tend to agree with that. This almost plays into my concern with taking Tatum so high, at worst I think he can be a serviceable first or second option on a perpetually bad team (hello Magic). This sounds good but I’m not sure if it is. I feel like I already know the kind of player Tatum is and the role that he will play on an NBA roster.
Tatum could also be a genuine star but I think this depends on two things, shot-selection and three point shooting. He was below average on catch and shoot jumpers, frequently settled for contested pull up threes, and often played iso ball looking to get off his jumper. Cleaning up this part of his game will be essential for him to be able to contribute on a well balanced playoff team.
Tatum shot 35% from three this year which would put him around the NBA average, however he was an incredibly streaky shooter so that number does not tell the whole story. He could either take over games or disappear if his shot wasn't falling. I saw him in person at his best where on the road against a top 15 team and one of the best defenses in the country he took over down the stretch and almost single handily won Duke the game. He shot 6-7 from three, scored 28 points and on that night looked like a star. But a little over a week later he scored 8 points on 4-16 shooting and 0-7 from behind the arc in a loss. Whether you think he is worthy of a top pick largely depends on if you think he can straighten these two things out. I believe he needs to go to a team with a good coach that will hold him accountable for taking bad shots. Until he does that I don’t think he can be a good shooter or a contributor on a good team.
7. Minnesota Timberwolves Jonathan Isaac, SF/PF, 6’11, Florida State (Freshman)
I cannot express how perfect of a fit I think this is for the Timberwolves. They will also consider Markkanen but I think Isaac is the clear choice for a number of reasons. First I think he is the best prospect available. Second, he fills a positional need. Isaac plays a little small forward but I think he is better long-term at the four where his greatest strength, his rim protection, will be better utilized. Also, at the four his shooting and offensive creation will be above average instead of below were he a three. Tom Thibodeau is a defensive coach and as the best defensive prospect in this draft he will love Isaac. Further, Isaac is an even greater fit with the Wolves because at FSU he was not the primary (or even secondary) option most of the time and he still remained very efficient and scored at a respectable rate. In a Wolves starting lineup with Rubio or Dunn, Isaac will be counted on as a 4th option at best. This is a role he has proven himself capable of thriving in.
8. New York Knicks Malik Monk, SG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
Monk is an interesting prospect. When he is on he may be the best pure scorer in this draft (remember the 47 he dropped against the eventual champions UNC?) and that makes him attractive for a lot of teams. He is prone to going cold but he generally doesn't let that effect his confidence or make him not play his game. Most of the concern around Monk revolves around his size. At 6’4 with a 6’3 wingspan he is undersized for an NBA shooting guard and is a work in progress on the defensive end. However, he is an elite leaper which helps mitigate some of the concern. With his size some teams may try to play him at point but he does not have experience at the position and his ability to transition is under question.
I would not be surprised if the Sixers traded back from three to be able to take him at a place they feel more comfortable (probably anywhere outside the top four) because he offers the outside scoring they need and he should be able to guard opposing points with Ben Simmons guarding other positions on defense. He is not a great fit for the Knicks but he may be the best player available at this point and with Carmelo appearing not long for New York the Knicks will need to find another outside scorer for the future. I also would not be surprised if the Knicks went in the direction of Frank Ntilinka if they believe he can be their lead guard of the future. A duo of Porzingis and Markkanen could also be very enticing. The Knicks are probably just outside the range of the tier three prospects but in a draft this deep they are hardly in a bad spot and should be able to pickup a long term starter.
9. Dallas Mavericks Frank Ntilinka, PG, 6’5, France (18 years old)
Ntilinka is very long and raw. At just under 19 years old he is the second youngest player currently projected to go in the first round. As an international prospect who has yet to be released for any athletic testing or team workouts/interviews we do not know his exact measurements but his wingspan appears to be longer than average for either guard spot. He is a quality shooter from deep and because of this in addition to his length he should be able to play some shooting guard at the NBA level but as of now he projects as a point. Right now he seems to lack some explosion which is particularly noticeable during his first step. He will never be a truly explosive athlete like some of the other top guards in this class but as his body fills out I would not be surprised if he adds explosiveness.
If he does not go to the Knicks at 8 I expect him to go to the Mavs who have long had one of the best international scouting departments in the league. I do not think the Mavs consider Yogi Ferrell to be their point guard of the future. Rick Carlisle is an elite coach who despite his poor track record in developing prospects has rarely had a prospect as good at Ntilinka and his style of slowly brining along rookies should be just what Ntilinka needs at this stage. Don’t expect him to contend for rookie of the year, but three years down the road don’t be surprised if we look back at him as a steal.
10. Sacremento Kings OG Anunoby, SF, 6’8, Indiana (Sophomore)
This is a very hard pick to predict and it is dependent on what they do earlier in the draft. Especially given the recent news that Rudy Gay will opt-out the Kings are in need of a wing which means that if they pick a guard at 5 I expect them to reach for a player like OG or Justin Jackson. Whereas the top 10 is dominated by guards the next ten best players are primarily front court players.
The best players available here are probably Markkanen or Collins of Gonzaga but the Kings are not in need of front court help due to the presence of Willie Cauley-Stein, Skal Labissiere, and Georgios Papagannis who I do not think they are ready to give up on after using the 13th pick on last year. The next best prospects are probably Donovan Mitchell of Louisville or (in the eyes of some at least) Luke Kennard of Duke but I would not expect the Kings to draft another SG since they apparently think Buddy Hield will be the next Steph Curry. I think they will go with Anunoby here over Jackson because of his athleticism and ability to guard four positions. He has a freakishly long wingspan (7’2) and absurd 6.8% body fat. If he regains the athleticism he once had after his knee injury he could be the best athlete in the draft and a real defensive monster who is a capable outside shooter. He has an injury history and is one of the biggest unknowns in the draft but with two top ten picks the Kings are in a position where they can take a flyer on a player like OG.
I have tried to be unbiased and professional though all this but… that being said they are the Kings and I fully expect them to pick someone out of left field, way too high, and at a position they don't need help at. Maybe Terrence Ferguson or TJ Leaf.
If you made it this far I sincerely thank you and would love any feedback I get. Also I'm not a Sixers fan so I figure since I talked about you guys enough you could probably help me out.
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2017.06.13 04:13 nba_draft Most Correct Mock Draft 1-10

Hello friends. Like many sports fans I think everyone else is wrong and my takes are the most correct. I follow the draft a lot and after hearing some people (with an NBA draft podcast none the less) have some incredibly bad takes I decided I should either try doing it for myself or kindly STFU. I think most mock drafts don't offer enough rational to explain their decisions and don't mention enough other possibilities. I have tried to provide that here while aggregating lots of good view points from many different sources that took me a lot of searching to find. As a result this is a pretty long read but I am really interested to hear other people's opinions before I commit even more time to perhaps doing a full first round mock. I stopped writing as much about the later picks because like I said I was spending a lot of time on this and I want to get it out there and get some feedback before I commit even more time to it. Let's begin
1. Boston Celtics Markelle Fultz, PG, 6’4, Washington (Freshman)
Fultz is the rare prospect that has no true weakness and is the most complete scorer to enter the league in recent memory. Fultz is capable of scoring from all three levels. He is an above average but not elite athlete however he uses his near 7 foot wingspan and tremendous body control to make difficult shots at the rim and can finish around bigger defenders. One of Fultz’s greatest strengths is his ability in the pick and roll where he frequently makes advanced reads and is able to use his size to elevate and consistently knock-down midrange jumpers. Fultz does not have the quickest first step but uses his combination of size and dribble moves to create separation and get open shots. Fultz is a good but not elite shooter from distance and is capable of creating his own shot as well as off the catch. Fultz’s passing is overshadowed by that of Lonzo Ball but he is still a comfortably above average passer.
Fultz is a competent defender with the potential to improve considerably because of his size. He sometimes seemed to take plays off on defense at Washington but that could be a function of being tired from being asked to do everything for the team on offense more than anything else.
The greatest knock on Fultz is that he was unable to elevate his atrocious Washington team to even a .500 record. However, watching the games it was obvious that his teammates just weren't good enough. Fultz doesn't have any off-court baggage and isn’t known to be a bad teammate. Because of this his team’s record shouldn't be a concern for GMs.
Assuming they keep the pick Fultz is a great fit for the Celtics who need another player who can create his own offense. The Celtics have many other guards but they are all undersized and short of Isaiah Thomas (haha) are not go-to scorers. Fultz is capable of either playing alongside Thomas or replacing him down the road.
2. Los Angeles Lakers Lonzo Ball, PG, 6’6, UCLA (Freshman)
Ball has good size and is in some ways a near perfect modern NBA point as almost all of his shots are threes or layups. There are concerns about his unconventional shooting form but he seems comfortable with it and for the way he plays it shouldn't be an issue because it is only particularly hindering in the midrange. He brings the ball to the left side which makes it very hard for him to shoot off the dribble to the right but Ball is smart enough to avoid doing this with consistency. All said his shot form is certainly a concern but he seems to have a good grasp of it and in fact his release is actually 13% faster than the NBA average. Overall his shot should be seen as a plus.
Ball’s best quality is his ability to run an offense and change the culture of a team. His passing is infectious and he particularly outstanding in transition where he always keeps his eyes up court looking for an outlet pass but is also capable of getting to the rim and finishing. This skill should translate to the NBA game.
Ball is not a great on ball defender but he uses his intelligence and reactions to jump into the passing lanes and generate steals. This reminds me of Steph Curry who like Ball is not an elite defender but manages to create steals and fast break opportunities for his team.
By all accounts Ball is a great teammate and person. For all the grief and attention he gets because of his father LaVar I have never heard a bad thing about Lonzo and he has to my knowledge no off-court troubles. Some may be scared off by LaVar and are afraid of having him around but Lonzo has been in the spotlight for years, particularly at UCLA, and he handles it tremendously well and does not let it effect his game. They are clearly a very close family and I don’t think it will be a problem. Lonzo is too good of a prospect to pass-up over concerns about his family and in the context of other prospects “off-court” such as run-ins with the law this seems like an increasingly trivial matter.
Ball is a unique prospect whose best qualities do not translate well to traditional pre-draft workouts which is what I partially attribute to his “slide” and the buzz that the Lakers were not blown-away by his workout. However, I think he is the second best prospect in this draft and I think they will take him. There will be concerns about the team’s defense but he fits coach Walton’s motion offense and from a business perspective will sell a lot of jerseys and help the Lakers reestablish their identity.
3. Philadelphia 76ers ** **Josh Jackson, SF, 6’8, Kansas (Freshman)
This is where the draft gets very interesting. The Sixers need a guard and a wing and here they have the chance to get their choice of (in my opinion) the tier 3 prospects with this pick. There are players in this draft that fit those needs but I’m not sure they want to take them this high when they could get them lower. I would not be surprised if they traded down into the 5-9 range. If they keep the pick the general consensus is that they will choose between Jackson and Fox. Though both are players at positions of need they do not fulfill the role the Sixers really need which is that of a shot-maker.
Jackson is a good prospect and would help the Sixers immediately with his defensive versatility and his energy would be a welcome addition to the team as they try to transition to a winning mentality. He is a plus rebounder who uses his athleticism to make impressive plays around the rim, particularly when he gets a little open space to accelerate. He is an improving post-scorer and also a good passer for his position. He also has high upside in the cliched way we describe all athletic wings who can’t shoot; “If he figures out the jumper he could be…”. There are significant red flags with Jackson apart from the aforementioned shooting struggles. For one he is older than all but three players currently projected to go in the top 25 by DraftExpress. More troubling though is his off the court history. He was charged with misdemeanor property damage related to a December incident outside a Lawrence bar where he reportedly threatened to “beat” a Kansas women’s basketball player. He also was suspended for the Jayhawks Big 12 Tournament first round game (which they lost) for failing to notify the athletic department of a separate traffic incident from early February. He is a good prospect but any team that drafts him will have to feel comfortable with his character after meeting with him.
If they keep the pick I think he will be the selection for the Sixers but I would be weary of adding him to an already poor-shooting starting lineup that would include Ben Simmons and Dario Saric.
4. Phoenix Suns ** **De’Aaron Fox, PG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman)
It is with these next two picks where I feel the impact of the Sixers’s decision will really be felt. The Suns are loaded with guard talent and after picking two front court players in the top 10 last year they do not appear to be in the market for the top big-men in this draft. Last year the Suns finished in the top 10 in points per game but finished last in points allowed so it is clear that they need defensive help. If the Sixers (or whoever makes the pick) passes on Jackson I believe the Suns would draft him in a heartbeat. However as I currently expect him to be off the board I expect the Suns to go in the direction of Fox, who while he adds to their backcourt bloat he also gives them the defensive help they desperately need.
Fox has a lot that you want from a point guard. His greatest strengths are his physical tools, particularly his speed and leaping ability. His shot is a concern but mechanically he is sound and I think he should be able to develop into a league average shooter, enough to keep offenses honest and allow him to do what he wants to do and get to the rim. Fox has a frail frame but he shows good body control and is better at finishing through contact at the rim than some of the other, bigger, guards in this class.
Fox uses his lateral quickness and his high motor to make himself a nuisance on defense. He does not have the defensive skills that another player the Suns may consider with this pick, Dennis Smith Jr., has, but he makes up for his less than stellar technique with his great instincts and commitment.
Reports are that GMs are very impressed with Fox during meetings and he is seen as one of the best people in this draft. He is a competitor on the court and off which is obvious when watching his visceral locker-room reaction after Kentucky’s NCAA tournament loss.
Some believe that the Suns are also considering Jayson Tatum with this pick but I do not see them going that direction because he would not address their defensive struggles and they already have competent scorers. Consider the drafting of another PG a referendum on the Suns future of Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight.
5. Sacramento Kings ** **Dennis Smith, PG, 6’3, N.C. State (Freshman)
This is where the draft may get very messy and hard to predict. The Kings are reportedly enamored with De’Aaron Fox and may move this pick in a package with Philly to move up and get him. If they stay put I believe that they will be choosing between Smith and Tatum.
Smith is a player that I believe can make a big rise up draft boards between now and the draft. He is not expected to fall outside the top 10 but right now most mock drafts have him going between 8 and 10. I think he has the potential to go much higher, maybe as high as 3 to the Sixers because if they decide to go with a guard they will likely be choosing between Fox and Smith and Smith’s more consistent shooting from deep may move the needle enough for them to pull the trigger.
I believe that Smith is a top 6 prospect in this draft and we know that the Kings are interested in finding a replacement for Darren Collison to play with Buddy Hield. Smith has decent height for a PG and his wingspan leaves something to be desired but he makes up for that with explosive athleticism.
On offense Smith is a decent shooter from range and is a plus finisher around the rim where he uses his body to absorb contact and make some acrobatic finishes. He is also a good passer who occasionally tries to thread the needle too much which results in more turnovers than coaches like to see.
Defensively Smith has shown that he has the potential to be a very good defender but this past season his effort was questioned. This is the greatest knock on Smith, that he didn’t do enough to help his team win and seemed to tune-out of games. This is apparent some games but at other times when he is fully engaged he is a captivating player to watch which makes you remember why at one point he was in the top three of many big boards coming into the year and at the beginning of the season. We must also remember that he was not in a great situation at NCST where the coaching staff was fired mid-season and many players who were expected to contribute regressed and caused problems.
Players like De’Aaron Fox and Jayson Tatum have both seen their stocks rise recently and I believe that the same will soon happen for Smith who is rumored to be working out for teams in the top three. I anticipate the conversation of Ball vs Fox giving way to a conversation of Fox vs Smith as I believe that they are similar players.
Some mocks have the Kings picking Tatum here at 5 and Smith at 10 but I seriously doubt that Smith will be available at 10 on draft night and I have heard from and tend to agree with others that Tatum is being overvalued. More on that below.
6. Orlando Magic ** **Jayson Tatum, SF, 6’8, Duke (Freshman)
I would like to preface this by saying that I think Tatum is a good player and can be a good player in the NBA, however… I’m not sold on the idea of him being a top prospect in a draft as deep as this one. Tatum looks the part of an NBA small forward right now standing 6’8 with a near 7 foot wingspan and broad shoulders. This has been one of his strengths dating back to high school. However he lacks elite athleticism and lateral quickness which I believe will limit his upside. He struggles to create for himself off the dribble against better competition and was the beneficiary of being frequently guarded by power forwards at Duke. Similarly there are questions as to whether he can guard NBA small forwards meaning he may be better frequently sliding down as a stretch-four.
Tatum is seen by many to be “NBA ready”. I hate this term; its so ambiguous and it means different things for different prospects and people reading it. What people really mean when discussing Tatum is that he has a low floor and I tend to agree with that. This almost plays into my concern with taking Tatum so high, at worst I think he can be a serviceable first or second option on a perpetually bad team (hello Magic). This sounds good but I’m not sure if it is. I feel like I already know the kind of player Tatum is and the role that he will play on an NBA roster.
Tatum could also be a genuine star but I think this depends on two things, shot-selection and three point shooting. He was below average on catch and shoot jumpers, frequently settled for contested pull up threes, and often played iso ball looking to get off his jumper. Cleaning up this part of his game will be essential for him to be able to contribute on a well balanced playoff team.
Tatum shot 35% from three this year which would put him around the NBA average, however he was an incredibly streaky shooter so that number does not tell the whole story. He could either take over games or disappear if his shot wasn't falling. I saw him in person at his best where on the road against a top 15 team and one of the best defenses in the country he took over down the stretch and almost single handily won Duke the game. He shot 6-7 from three, scored 28 points and on that night looked like a star. But a little over a week later he scored 8 points on 4-16 shooting and 0-7 from behind the arc in a loss. Whether you think he is worthy of a top pick largely depends on if you think he can straighten these two things out. I believe he needs to go to a team with a good coach that will hold him accountable for taking bad shots. Until he does that I don’t think he can be a good shooter or a contributor on a good team.
7. Minnesota Timberwolves ** **Jonathan Isaac, SF/PF, 6’11, Florida State (Freshman)
I cannot express how perfect of a fit I think this is for the Timberwolves. They will also consider Markkanen but I think Isaac is the clear choice for a number of reasons. First I think he is the best prospect available. Second, he fills a positional need. Isaac plays a little small forward but I think he is better long-term at the four where his greatest strength, his rim protection, will be better utilized. Also, at the four his shooting and offensive creation will be above average instead of below were he a three. Tom Thibodeau is a defensive coach and as the best defensive prospect in this draft he will love Isaac. Further, Isaac is an even greater fit with the Wolves because at FSU he was not the primary (or even secondary) option most of the time and he still remained very efficient and scored at a respectable rate. In a Wolves starting lineup with Rubio or Dunn, Isaac will be counted on as a 4th option at best. This is a role he has proven himself capable of thriving in.
8. New York Knicks *Malik Monk, SG, 6’4, Kentucky (Freshman) *
Monk is an interesting prospect. When he is on he may be the best pure scorer in this draft (remember the 47 he dropped against the eventual champions UNC?) and that makes him attractive for a lot of teams. He is prone to going cold but he generally doesn't let that effect his confidence or make him not play his game. Most of the concern around Monk revolves around his size. At 6’4 with a 6’3 wingspan he is undersized for an NBA shooting guard and is a work in progress on the defensive end. However, he is an elite leaper which helps mitigate some of the concern. With his size some teams may try to play him at point but he does not have experience at the position and his ability to transition is under question.
I would not be surprised if the Sixers traded back from three to be able to take him at a place they feel more comfortable (probably anywhere outside the top four) because he offers the outside scoring they need and he should be able to guard opposing points with Ben Simmons guarding other positions on defense. He is not a great fit for the Knicks but he may be the best player available at this point and with Carmelo appearing not long for New York the Knicks will need to find another outside scorer for the future. I also would not be surprised if the Knicks went in the direction of Frank Ntilinka if they believe he can be their lead guard of the future. A duo of Porzingis and Markkanen could also be very enticing. The Knicks are probably just outside the range of the tier three prospects but in a draft this deep they are hardly in a bad spot and should be able to pickup a long term starter.
9. Dallas Mavericks ** **Frank Ntilinka, PG, 6’5, France (18 years old)
Ntilinka is very long and raw. At just under 19 years old he is the second youngest player currently projected to go in the first round. As an international prospect who has yet to be released for any athletic testing or team workouts/interviews we do not know his exact measurements but his wingspan appears to be longer than average for either guard spot. He is a quality shooter from deep and because of this in addition to his length he should be able to play some shooting guard at the NBA level but as of now he projects as a point. Right now he seems to lack some explosion which is particularly noticeable during his first step. He will never be a truly explosive athlete like some of the other top guards in this class but as his body fills out I would not be surprised if he adds explosiveness.
If he does not go to the Knicks at 8 I expect him to go to the Mavs who have long had one of the best international scouting departments in the league. I do not think the Mavs consider Yogi Ferrell to be their point guard of the future. Rick Carlisle is an elite coach who despite his poor track record in developing prospects has rarely had a prospect as good at Ntilinka and his style of slowly brining along rookies should be just what Ntilinka needs at this stage. Don’t expect him to contend for rookie of the year, but three years down the road don’t be surprised if we look back at him as a steal.
10. Sacremento Kings ** **OG Anunoby, SF, 6’8, Indiana (Sophomore)
This is a very hard pick to predict and it is dependent on what they do earlier in the draft. Especially given the recent news that Rudy Gay will opt-out the Kings are in need of a wing which means that if they pick a guard at 5 I expect them to reach for a player like OG or Justin Jackson. Whereas the top 10 is dominated by guards the next ten best players are primarily front court players.
The best players available here are probably Markkanen or Collins of Gonzaga but the Kings are not in need of front court help due to the presence of Willie Cauley-Stein, Skal Labissiere, and Georgios Papagannis who I do not think they are ready to give up on after using the 13th pick on last year. The next best prospects are probably Donovan Mitchell of Louisville or (in the eyes of some at least) Luke Kennard of Duke but I would not expect the Kings to draft another SG since they apparently think Buddy Hield will be the next Steph Curry. I think they will go with Anunoby here over Jackson because of his athleticism and ability to guard four positions. He has a freakishly long wingspan (7’2) and absurd 6.8% body fat. If he regains the athleticism he once had after his knee injury he could be the best athlete in the draft and a real defensive monster who is a capable outside shooter. He has an injury history and is one of the biggest unknowns in the draft but with two top ten picks the Kings are in a position where they can take a flyer on a player like OG.
I have tried to be unbiased and professional though all this but… that being said they are the Kings and I fully expect them to pick someone out of left field, way too high, and at a position they don't need help at. Maybe Terrence Ferguson or TJ Leaf.
If you made it this far I sincerely thank you and would love any feedback I get.
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2016.10.01 14:57 OniTan Arc 5 Readthrough

Notes:
5.1) Somer's Rock is a bar in BB.
Kaiser is the leader of Empire 88. He wears full armor with a crown.
Fenja and Menja of E88 are busty blonde twins who wear Valkyrie armor and helmets. They can grow to be 3 stories tall which makes them extremely durable.
Krieg, Night, Fog, and Hookwolf are under Purity.
Night and Fog used to be based in Boston.
Most gangs recruit within their own city.
Kaiser by contrast recruits from all over the US. He as the most parahumans of any gang in BB. Most don't stay for long, though.
Purity creates solid light beams strong enough to destroy buses and brick walls.
Coil is taller than Grue but extremely skinny. He wears a full body black costume with a white snake on it.
He's a strategist. He controls half of Downtown with squads of ex military minions in high end gear. He's the only one in his organization with powers.
Faultline is in her 20s with a black ponytail. Her costume is a dress with armor.
Newter has orange skin, blue eyes, red hair, and a 5 foot long prehensile tail. Has a "u" tattoo on his chest.
Gregor the Snail is obese and hairless with white skin covered in snail shells. Has a "u" tattoo on his arm.
Labyrinth wears a green robe and mask.
Spitfire wears a red and black costume with a gas mask.
Faultline has a feud with Tattletale as they try to outsmart each other.
Faultline's crew are mercenaries who will take any job that doesn't involve murder. They've only failed at one or 2 jobs.
Faultline can find the hidden strengths in the people that work for her.
The Undersiders haven't failed at any jobs. That's important.
Faultline's crew has done 3 times as many jobs as the Undersiders.
Skidmark is black with chapped lips and gross teeth.
He's a drug dealer and addict.
He doesn't have the respect of other villains.
His subordinates are Moist and Squealer.
Kaiser speaks in a calm voice.
The Undersiders have respect because of the bank robbery and for beating Lung.
Skidmark is cowardly and only holds territory no one cares about.
The waitress at Somer's Rock is deaf.
The Travelers aren't local to BB. They all wear red and black costumes.
Trickster wears a black costume with a red mask and top hat. Looks like Baron Samedi.
His subordinates are a girl with a sun on her costume, a guy in armor with a square mask, and a four armed hairless gorilla.
The rules of neutral ground meetings are no fighting, no using powers, and no taunting people. Breaking rules causes everyone to attack the rule breakers.
Coil has a smooth voice.
The ABB has killed 35 people and hospitalized over 100.
The police and military are patrolling BB.
Being reckless is looked down on by villains because it brings the military and more heroes to the area.
Bakuda has over 300 minions with bombs implanted in their heads.
If she dies, all her bombs go off.
The video of the Undersiders escaping Bakuda is good for their reputation. So is pretending that they were unharmed.
Villains are capable of calling a truce, both with each other and with the police and military, to fight a bigger threat.
Faultline would work for anyone who pays her rates, even the ABB.
Coil talked to Faultline after the meeting.
Despite the truce, the villains are all plotting against each other.
5.2) Hookwolf is blonde with blue eyes and wears a metal wolf mask. He has a wolf and swastika tattoo on one arm and an E88 tattoo on the other arm. He wears only jeans and a belt with the wolf and swastika symbol on it.
His power makes metal sprout from his skin. Similar to Kaiser?
The Birdcage is in British Columbia.
Hookwolf is a murderer who escaped while being transported to the Birdcage twice.
He has a feud with Bitch since she attacked his dog fighting ring. Tattletale and Grue didn't know.
Only heroes call Bitch Hellhound.
Kaiser, Coil, Faultline, and Trickster lead their teams, while Grue only leads his team when it's necessary. The other villains would lose respect for him if they found out.
E88 attacks non whites and gays.
Hookwolf was out of town recently.
Insulting a villain requires money or blood as payment.
Skidmark is reckless and would start a fight in neutral territory.
Grue is stronger than Bitch.
Bitch not telling Grue about her actions made him look weak at the meeting.
Trickster smokes.
Bitch never apologizes.
Regent's power kickback can last for weeks.
Taylor still plans to turn the Undersiders in.
5.3) Weymouth shopping center is in BB.
Civilians have to be home at 6PM under the curfew. Stores close at 5:30.
Taylor talks about a duality between her and Skitter.
Battery and Shadow Stalker are protecting the mall with soldiers. Both are attractive but also controversial.
Bakuda's bombings have caused sales at the stores to try to counterbalance people's fear.
Manpower from New Wave was protecting the mall earlier.
Battery was head of the Wards a few years ago, and graduated to the Protectorate soon after. She's about 22.
The Protectorate changes the graduation dates to protect capes real ages and identities.
Battery's power lets her charge up by standing still in exchange for enhanced speed, strength, and electromagnetic powers.
Her costume is white, grey, and blue.
People speculate that her teammate Assault is her boyfriend, brother, or even both.
Shadow Stalker can turn into a smoky form and walk through walls.
She used to be a vigilante, and joined the Wards rather than go to jail.
She's supposed to only use nonlethal weapons but does anyway.
Her costume is grey with a black metal mask.
She's in her teens, about as tall as Taylor.
Battery is about 2 inches taller than Taylor.
Alan Barnes knows Danny. He's Emma's dad and has red hair.
Dockworkers have work with reconstruction and cleanup.
Mayoral elections are in the summer, city council elections are in the fall.
The current government doesn't want to reopen the ferry.
Alan is a lawyer.
One of Bakuda's bombs can turn people to glass.
Shadow Stalker has brown eyes.
Taylor tells her dad that Emma is the the bully.
5.4) Alan is tall and wide with a loud voice.
Emma has big tits. Catty Taylor points this out.
Madison's mom is small like her. Her parents are young.
Sophia showed up to the meeting with a blonde woman who was definitely not her mom.
Mrs. Knott is Taylor's homeroom teacher.
The principal is a skinny woman with a blonde bowl cut. She doesn't recognize Taylor.
The bullies full names are Emma Barnes, Madison Clements, and Sophia Hess.
Sophia is on the track and field team. She has gotten detention several times.
September 8th was Taylor's first day at school.
Mr. Quinlan is the math teacher.
There are gangs weapons, and drugs at the school. Some students have been badly injured.
Arcacia High is a good school with no gangs or drugs.
Sophia is one of the best runners in track and field.
Emma's dad is as means as she is.
Taylor's bugs react to her stress by approaching her.
Danny has a friend in the media.
Alan is a divorce attorney.
Lisa answers phone calls on the first ring.
Bitch is going to fight the ABB with members of the Travelers, Faultline's Crew, and Empire 88.
It's a 20 minute bus ride from Winslow High to the Undersiders base.
5.5) Coil proposed the idea of mixing and matching the groups so they couldn't betray each other.
Undersiders code: The first letter of a member's name, to be responded to with the last to make sure you aren't being held hostage. Then a green, yellow, or orange object to indicate the level of danger you're in.
Tattletale and Regent are with Faultline, Trickster, and the shapeshifter from the Travelers, as well as E88 members and Coil's soldiers.
Taylor's costume has a zipper.
Bitch only respects people who don't show weakness.
Skitter's power usually has a range of 2 blocks. On this day it's 3 and a half.
Skitter is being dropped off Northwest of the Undersiders base.
Bitch's power creates mass out of nothing.
Taylor's power also seems to rely on energy with no source.
Skidmark and the other Merchants had their base in an abandoned tourist shop that looked like a lighthouse. The ABB forced them out.
Bitch's dogs are the size of ponies.
Their group includes Kaiser, Fenja and Menja, the sun girl from the Travelers, Newter, and Labyrinth.
Newter can cling to walls.
He has blue hair and wraps around his hands and feet.
Coil's men have kevlar armor, baclavas, visors, and assault rifles. One has another rifle and the other has a grenade launcher.
Unlike everyone else, Skitter doesn't have a watch.
The attack starts at 4:48PM.
Labyrinth wasn't startled by Bitch's dogs. The normally calm Kaiser was.
5.6) Sundancer is the girl from the Travelers.
She thought the Undersiders were called the Outsiders.
She describes her group as intense, violent, and lonely. They have drama that makes hanging out not a fun time.
They rarely stay in one place for more than a week.
Taylor moved twice as a kid.
Newter has a prehensile tail. His eyes are solid blue with horizontal black pupils.
The ABB spray painted a warehouse they're using. Not very discreet.
Skitter thinks Newter is good looking if he weren't a mutant.
He claims bugs can't hurt him.
Sundancer can't use her power without seriously hurting people.
Ballistic is her teammate and has the same problem.
The ABB warehouse is full of 20-30 unarmed people in their underwear on the ground floor.
Bakuda's bombs are made of metal and plastic. They go off when humanoid forms pass them. There were 3 traps in the warehouse.
There are 10 armed people upstairs.
Newter runs on all fours. He can leap 15 feet.
His bodily fluids are hallucinogens. He disables living things on contact or even from a distance with his spit.
Kaiser blocked off Bitch from the upstairs with his blades.
Oni Lee and Lung are in the building.
5.7) Oni Lee's duplicates can act for a few seconds. They turn into white ash when destroyed.
One of Coil's soldiers is a sniper.
Bitch was stabbed in the arm.
Skitter's mask lens is damaged.
One of Coil's soldiers was knocked off the roof.
Skitter's bugs get cloned and teleport with Oni Lee.
Labyrinth's power makes checkerboard mazes.
She can't talk.
Oni Lee was shot in the leg.
Coil's soldier has a broken leg.
Sundancer has a gouged shoulder.
Taylor has Labyrinth sat behind.
The ABB were making drugs. The employees are in their underwear to keep them from stealing drugs.
Newter has a knife wound on his shoulder.
The ABB was raping their employees.
When Taylor was 5 or 6 she saw a meth head on the bus.
Several of her classmates left school due to drugs.
Brockton Bay has as many unemployed people as working people.
Taylor says "grody."
Sundancer is Caucasian and pale.
Newter is patched up with sanitary pads. Taped down on 3 sides so they can breathe. A subversion of Taylor's trigger event?
Bitch, Sundancer, and Taylor are strong enough to pick up Newter. He's about 180 lbs. Bitch and Sundancer are about as heavy as Taylor?
Taylor sends Bitch away to handle the injured.
Lung is 15 feet tall, covered in scales, and growing wings.
He lost his mask. His face is catlike, and his nose and mouth are on X shaped opening full of sharp teeth.
He has 6 ABB members with him.
Bitch doesn't care much about her team mates.
Fenja and Menja are 18-20 feet tall. One has a sword and shield, the other a spear.
5.9) Lung has a prehensile neck as long as Skitter's torso.
He has extreme reflexes, strength, and flexibility. He can easily throw Bitch's dogs.
He runs on all fours.
His fire can soften Kaiser's blades. He's strong enough to nreak the smaller ones.
Kaiser can manifest blades under people's feet.
Fenja and Menja are strong enough to knock Lung around.
Lung's fire is blue and yellow.
Fenja and Menja are vulnerable to fire.
Sundancer's power makes a sun strong enough to melt asphalt. She can control its direction.
It's hot enough to weaken Lung.
Kaiser impaled Lung through the heart, and he still regenerated.
Lung has red batlike wings covered in silver scales.
He's now 17 feet tall.
He slammed Kaiser into a wall repeatedly until he was unconscious.
Fenja has the spear.
He stabbed Menja in the stomach with a claw.
Her real name is Nessa.
Lung can disperse Sundancer's sun as she makes it.
Sundancer is immune to fire.
Lung knocked her aside.
Lung could have killed Skitter, Bitch, and everyone else present but toyed with them instead.
Lung was affected by Newter's venom in his eye.
Tattletale and Regent's team found Bakuda's workshop.
Lung can regrow an arm in a few months.
Skitter cut Lung's eyes out.
Bitch's dogs heal when they return to normal.
Skitter asked Fenja to see if Kaiser would drop the Dogfighting issue since she saved his life.
5.10) The ABB warehouse is at Whitemore and Sunset.
Sundancer is shocked over Skitter cutting out Lung's eyes.
Some of Coil's soldiers are trained medics.
Newter has fast healing.
Skitter's bugs took the ABB's money.
Newter touches Coil's soldier and Labyrinth with his hands with no effect. His wraps protect them?
Faultline's crew has several bases. They travel through the sewers using Labyrinth's power.
Newter can't get an infection. He's toxic to bacteria and parasites.
His power warped his body.
Labyrinth's power warped her mind. Sometimes she's lucid, other times she seems elsewhere.
She was rescued from somewhere. Her mazes are prettier than they used to be.
Skitter regrets not having a full helmet to protect her head.
She thought Bitch was going to kiss her.
She has bruises all over her from Lung.
Bitch carries dog food in her jacket.
Taylor's power hasn't affected her mind.
Bitch's power altered her mind to read body language better. It helps her communicate with dogs.
She has dog psychology, but it affected her ability to communicate with humans.
Tattletale doesn't trust Brian and Alec with this information.
5.I) Gregor the Snail has brown fingernails.
He hires people to run errands for hi due to his appearance.
He doesn't do anything illegal.
The pay is $400.
He has enemies.
He's about 30, 5 foot 10, and 3 times the average weight.
Palanquin club is 2 blocks from Lord Street. The sign is yellow.
Gregor used to work as a bouncer.
Newter is about 16.
Faultline openly discusses her jobs.
Gregor is Icelandic.
Faultline's crew had a job whee they went against Toybox, black market Tinkers a month ago.
They had a job in Philedelphia where they encountered Chevalier and Myrddin. They didn't lose.
Chevalier is the head of the Philedelphia Protectorate.
Myrddin is the head of the Chicago Protectorate.
People can't overdose on Newter's poison. It has no side effects and isn't addictive.
The bouncer in Palanquin is named Pierce.
Emily aka Spitfire and Elle aka Labyrinth share a room.
Emily has curly brown hair and freckles.
She has a Apple computer.
Elle is blonde.
Her power is strongest the less lucid she is. When she's fully aware, she has almost no power.
The Dragonslayers are villains who stole technology from the most powerful Tinker in the world. They're mercenaries and thieves.
Someone in an asylum in Boston knew about them and Faultline's crew got the information.
They fought the Boston Protectorate and recruited Elle from the asylum.
Faultline owns Palanquin as well as other businesses.
She has wavy black hair and sharp features.
Her power creates red and blue energy that manipulates wood, metal, stone, and plastic.
She cannot affect living wood.
She once toppled building on someone.
The Manton effect may be psychological and protect people from their own powers.
Gregor is stronger than Faultline.
He has thick skin and a layer of fluid protecting his bones and organs. His skeleton is flexible cartilage. He can be hit by a car without being injured.
A second trigger event is possible in life or death circumstances. It radically changes or improves their powers.
Monstrous parahumans with the "u" or "c" tattoo have been dumped all over North America. They all have amnesia.
4 out of 5 were monstrous at first.
A redheaded girl named Shamrock showed up in Las Vegas. She manipulates probabilities and has a bounty on her head for cheating.
She has a "u" tattoo.
Casinos have largely shut down due to parahumans who could cheat with their powers. Yet BB still had a casino?
People with the tattoo have been getting less monstrous over the years.
The Dealer was selling powers in a bottle in Tallahassee, Florida for $35,000.
His briefcase has the same "u" symbol on it.
One of his customers was murdered.
Sybill the Scarab has a beetle shell.
The makers of the potions have been getting better at it.
The Dealer stole the potions, as his customers didn't have tattoos.
The Dealer is likely dead.
Faultline's crew has a contract with Coil.
She has private investigators and wants to recruit Shamrock.
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2016.09.26 09:55 clearliquidclearjar WEEKLY EVENTS 9/26 – 10/3

Dear sweet baby Jesus, let the cooler weather start soon.
Tally’s Independent Cinema and Theater Offerings:
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MONDAY 9/26
  • The Globe Auditorium: Japanese Tea Ceremony. 6pm
  • 621 Annex: “Disney” Feat. Jamison Williams & Noise Ordinance. 7pm
  • Club Downunder: INTER ARMA w/ Call of The Void and Myakka. 8:30pm/GP $10/18+
TUESDAY 9/27
  • Junction @ Monroe: Live Rehearsal Tuesdays. “Tuesdays are Live Rehearsals at [email protected]. Sponsored by the Tallahassee Area Musicians Guild. Utilize our complete backline and PA for rehearsals, jams, or hold auditions. Up to one hour slots (or more depending on number of signups) per artist/group.” 4pm
  • Madison Social: Trivia Social. They do half and half theme and miscellaneous, so check their FB every week for an event page. 7pm
  • Brass Tap in Midtown: Trivia. Check their FB page for the theme. 7pm
  • Northside Pies: Bar Trivia With Hank. 50 questions of sweet, sweet trivia. This is a great geeky date night option. If you’ve got teens or kids that want to go to trivia (hey, nerds come in all sizes), this is a PG/PG-13 night. 8pm/free
  • Bird’s Oyster Shack: Trivia With John Carpenter. Lively and fun. 7:30pm
  • GrassLands Brewing Company: Trivia Factory. 7:30pm
  • Fourth Quarter: Trivia With Professor Jim. AUCE wings. Truly a trivia favorite. 8pm
  • Krewe de Gras: Karaoke With Pete. 8:30pm
  • Brass Tap on Gaines: Karaoke with DJRah. 9pm
  • Atmosphere Pub: Open Mic "SingeSong Writer" Edition. 9pm
  • 926 Bar & Grill: Trivia Tuesday! 9:30pm
  • Applebees on the Parkway: Karaoke with Amanda Goram. 10pm
  • Pockets Pool: Karaoke with Dwight. 10pm/21+
  • WW Grainger: Bike Safety Class. “Interested in learning how to ride your bike safely on and off campus? Join the FSU reCycle Bike Program for bike safety tips and a fun ride! We will discuss essential tips and skills, then embark on a ride through campus to Railroad Square Art Park and back. This will be an opportunity to practice some of the newly learned techniques!” 5pm
WEDNESDAY 9/28
  • Bird’s Oyster Shack: Wednesday Night Lab Session With Jim Crozier, featuring Jimi McKenzie. 6pm-8pm/free
  • Fermentation Lounge: Quizmaster General Knowledge Trivia. “Quizmaster is hosted by Bennett Miller from 7-9pm every Wednesday, and features three rounds of general knowledge trivia (and a weekly food special). It is free to play and teams of up to 6 are welcome. The winner of each round receives a sample flight, and the Quizmaster for the night receives a $25 gift card and serious credit on Geek Street.” 7pm
  • Brass Tap on Gaines: Trivia. Check their FB page for the theme. 7pm
  • Hurricane Grill & Wings: Trivia With Greg. 7pm
  • GrassLands Brewing Company: BYOBG! Bring Your Own Board Game. “Our gracious host, Trevor Bond, will be featuring one game each week. Feel free to bring your own games to play & share.” 7pm/21+
  • Proof: Bar Trivia With Hank. Drink delicious brews and show off all those random factoids you thought you’d never use. Local beer, local trivia in the heart of Tally’s Art District. A food truck is always out front for this, too, or you can order and pick up something great at the Crum Box Gastgarden (the caboose in RR Sq). Bar tab for 1st and 2nd place teams. 7:30pm/21+/no cover
  • The Warehouse: Open Mic. “There is a lottery for time slots. Now smoke free!” 8pm
  • Junction @ Monroe: Bike Night. “Live music on the deck featuring Tim Russell of the Whiskey Bandits and Karaoke inside. $2 Bud Light drafts, $3 domestic bottles, and Food Truck onsite.” 8pm
  • 926 Bar & Grill: Karaoke with Nathan. He’s got all the songs. All the songs you want to sing. If you see me there, don’t make too much fun. 9pm
  • Just One More: Karaoke with Roger. 9pm
  • Bird’s: Comedy Night. I’m pretty sure this is both a performance and an open mic. 9:30pm/free
  • Waterworks: Another paella party. “We will be cooking up three kinds of authentic paella and Waterworks will be blending up tasty sangria and cocktails all evening! Purchase a ticket inside Waterworks and redeem it on the Patio for the freshly cooked Paella. First come, first served. Come early to see the cooking show! Food will be ready to eat at 8pm.” 7pm/$14 for food/21+
  • Aloft: Dallas Bowlin. 8pm
THURSDAY 9/29
  • Lake Ella Area: Food Truck Thursday with Crossroads. 6pm
  • Beef O’Brady’s: AJ Johnson Trivia. 6:30pm
  • Junction @ Monroe: Open Mic. “The only open mic that pays the performers! Bring your instruments and play an open slot or just come and be entertained in Tallahassee's best sounding room! Free draft beer for performers.” 7pm/$10
  • Gaines Street Pies: Bar Trivia With Hank @ Warhorse Whiskey Bar. With a picture round! Sound round! Speed round! Hoarder’s Delight drawing! And all the other trivias! Win a delicious 18” pizza! 8pm
  • Dux (Crawfordville): Karaoke with Big Bob. $25 bar tab given away every week. 8:30pm-12:30pm
  • Midtown Caboose: Trivia Factory. 8:30pm
  • Unique Wonders: Live Comedy with Big Hou! 8:30pm/$5
  • Pockets: Karaoke Dance Party with Keith Welch. 9pm/21+
  • Applebees on Cap Cir: Karaoke with Amanda Goram. 10pm
  • Birds: Karaoke. I hear they have a new DJ. Anybody have details on that? 10pm
  • DOMI Station: Happy Hour with FSU Office of Commercialization: “Come out Thursday, September 29th at 5:00pm to meet and chat with the FSU Office of Commercialization. Get some key information about the resources available to you and your community. Beer from GrassLands Brewing Company will be provided! The FSU Office of Commercialization is the point of contact for outside organizations and individuals wanting to locate, for commercial or other public purposes, the skills, inventions, creative works and other resources of the FSU research community.” 5pm
  • Capital City Country Club: Peyton Tuthill 7th Annual Wine & Cheese Tasting. “Join us for evening of fun with music provided by Mark Blair Trio, Performance by FSU AcaBelles, Hole-in-One Putt Putt Competition and great silent auction.” 5:30pm/$30
  • The Southern Public House: Bourbon & BBQ Dinner. “Come join us at The Southern Public House for a Bourbon & BBQ Dinner. We will be pairing a selection of bourbons from Woodford Reserve Distillery with a custom dinner menu prepared by our head chef. Tickets are available for purchase at our online ticket store. All guest will receive a gift bag upon arrival with items from Woodford Reserve. Bourbons being sampled will be as follows; Woodford Reserve Distillers Select, Woodford Reserve Rye, Woodford Reserve Double Oaked.” 7pm/$35
  • Longmire Recital Hall: Faculty Solo Recital: Katherine Weintraub, saxophone. 7:30pm
  • Club Downunder: Destroyer (Solo) w/ Zachary Cale. 8:30pm/GP $20/18+
  • 926 Bar & Grill: Dee-1 w/ DJ A to the L Stess The Emcee Backpack Beatz Mal Forte Ro Thoro & Mezzo Fonzerelli. 9pm/$10
FRIDAY 9/30
  • Parlay Sports Bar: Karaoke with Big Bob. 8pm
  • Hobbit South: Karaoke. 8pm
  • Leggetts: Karaoke with Paul. 8:30pm
  • Just One More: Karaoke with Roger. 9pm
  • Skyzone: GLOW- Featuring DJ LooseKid. “Grab all of your friends and get your jump on with live music featuring Dj Loosekid, glow lights & laser beams! Check in early to take advantage of the full 2 hours of jumping! Each jumper must wear a reflective shirt, or purchase a shirt in the park. Due to the popularity of this event and early sell outs- we highly suggest you reserve your tickets online beforehand. We cannot guarantee tickets for GLOW will be available in the park at the time of the event.” 9pm-11pm/$25/no one under 5yo
  • 926 Lounge (Formerly Pugs): The Friday Night Party. “Get your pre-game on at Happy Hour with Tom from 4-9 and the dance party getting rolling at 10 pm with our favorite house DJs slinging sound all night long. At midnight, join our talented Queens for an amazing show!” 9pm/$5, $7 under 21/18+
  • Stetsons @ The Moon: Karaoke with Johnny Ray. 10pm/$5/18+
  • U.S. Passport Acceptance Facility in the International Programs Office @ FSU University Center. “Florida State has an official U.S. Passport Acceptance Facility located in the International Programs office in the University Center. On September 30th, our Passport Office will be having extended hours that will allow you to apply for your passport right here at FSU, all day! You do not have to be a FSU student to visit our passport office, any U.S. citizen is welcome. We also take pictures in-house so if you need passport or visa photos, be sure to stop by! Additionally, representatives and students will be on hand to talk about the study abroad opportunities with International Programs.” 7am-7pm
  • Downtown: Getdown with King Cotton with The Flip Flop Boys. 6pm
  • Bicycle House Tallahassee: September Tallahassee Critical Mass. “Please!! Join!! Us!! It'll be a blast. We go at a pace for everyone. It's really fun and you meet some cool cyclists; we ususally end with some sort of food somewhere. Who doesn't love big bike rides?? (like, cars, probably...) For those who don't know about critical mass, here's the scoop: it's a national bike ride that happens around the country on the last friday of every month--Portland, Boston, Miami (the cover photo is from Miami's crit mass). Some places have as many as 500 riders--Tallahassee isn't there yet. It's meant to demonstrate the presence of a cycling community and also to advocate for cycling rights and safety when biking in the road. Riding in a big group of people is obviously safer than solo riding because cars are less like to accelerate around you. So that's what its about--safety, community, advocacy, and also--it's really just fun!” 6:30pm
  • Crum Box Gastgarden: Rosemary Kennedy, Man-Moth, Teen Baby and Graham Snuggs. 7pm/$5
  • Island Wing Company: Working Moms' Night Out. “Meet the members of Working Moms Network and learn about what this group can do for you! Members, invite your friends...the more the merrier. There will be NO FEE for members OR guests. Guests, enter to win a 9 MONTH MEMBERSHIP (October - December 2016), valued at $128! The member who invited the winning guest will also receive a 6 month membership (January - June 2017)! Great food & drinks, great friends, and great networking will be had at this Working Moms' Night Out! See you there!” 7:30pm
  • Junction @ Monroe: Tocamos Mas Latin Night. 8pm
  • Aloft: The Tony Young Trio. 8pm
  • From the Heart Studio: Rick Ott, Mimi Hearn, Dean Newman, Donna Decker. 8pm/$20
  • The Plaza in Thomasville: Rachel Hillman. 8pm
  • The Riverside Café in St. Marks: The Mary And Aaron Band. 8pm
  • BFF Haus: AlMirabella & TheMidLifeCrises w/ Cooper! + Blemish. 8pm/$5/all ages
  • Garages on Gaines: The Nitro Groundshakers. 8pm
  • Moose Lodge: Shepherd Creek Band. 8:30pm/members only
  • Bird’s Oyster Shack: Tuesday Supper Club Shakes the Shack. 9pm
  • Bradfordville Blues Club: Packrat's Smokehouse. 9pm/$25
  • Atmosphere Pub: Layzie BONE of Bone Thugs n Harmony w/ MO THUGS / Razorz Edge. 9pm/$20
  • Coliseum: LiL Uzi Vert. 10pm
SATURDAY 10/1
  • Park at Monroe: The Downtown Marketplace. 9am
  • Corner of Georgia & Macomb: Frenchtown Farmers’ Market. “The Frenchtown Heritage Market offers a wide variety of fresh, naturally grown produce. Live music, cooking demos, fruits vegetables, and honey sold directly by farmers.” 9am – 1pm.
  • Wakulla Springs Lodge: Bob Carey on Piano. “Come on out and bring along your vocal chops, browse through my lyrics book, pick up one of my pass-around mics and sing your heart out, or just grab a stool and enjoy a fun filled evening of music and dancing. Full bar open til late.” 7pm
  • Salty Dawg: Karaoke with Paul. Family friendly! 8pm
  • Leggetts: Karaoke with Cowboy Chris. 9pm
  • El Patron: Pasion Latina. Bachata, Merengue, Salsa, Reggaeton. 9pm
  • 926 Lounge: Sanctuary (formerly Blue Monday). “Tallahassee's Longest Running Dark Dance Night is here again! Wear your finest for Darkwave, EBM, Industrial, and some of your other favorites with some of the best and weirdest people in town. Fetish Friendly.” 10pm/$5/18+
  • Wakulla Environmental Institute (in Crawfordville): Exploring the Ecology of the Big Bend. “Are you a nature lover? Passionate about environmental science? This 2-day class might interest you! The Wakulla Environmental Institute sits in the heart of one million acres of public land that makes the region one of the top 10 areas for biological diversity in the country. This class will explore the forests and their ecosystems, and you'll learn about the forces that shape these systems and actions needed to maintain them. Day 1 will cover the long-leaf pine system and host a field trip to Apalachicola National Forest. Day 2 will cover the karst systems and hardwood hammock and host a field trip to St. Marks Wildlife Refuge. Students will meet at WEI each morning for classroom instruction, then carpool to the field trip locations.” 8am/$50 for both days
  • St. Joe Preserve: Fall Bay Day. “Friends of St. Joseph Bay Preserves present the opportunity to tour the Buffer and Aquatic Preserves and learn about birds and life along the bay. Music by Crossroads Bluegrass. Shrimp Boil lunch for $10; all other activities free.” 8am-3pm
  • UF IFAS North Florida Research and Education Center (in Quincy): Art and Garden Fall Family Festival. “Once the weather has cooled and the flowers are in bloom, join us for a day filled with creative ways to explore visual art and the art of gardening. Spend the day learning, discovering and engaging in fun activities for the whole family.” 9am/free/all ages
  • Mission San Luis: Blessing Of The Animals. “Furry, feathered, or other animal friends are invited to be blessed at our annual event. The Blessing of Animals originated in the 13th century in remembrance of St. Francis of Assisi, the patron saint of animals and the environment, who believed that all animals should be treated with dignity and respect. Includes crafts, more.” 10am-3pm
  • 1271 Metropolitan Blvd: 2016 Leon County Fire Truck Round-Up. “Wonderful FREE community event with free food thanks to Volunteer Leon, photo opportunities with fire trucks, rescue equipment, as well as music, food and fun! One free 9 volt battery per family courtesy of Batteries Plus Bulbs. Tallahassee Memorial Emergency Center Northeast, located in the same office park, will be set up giving health screenings. The Growing Room Child Development Center will be open for tours and potty breaks!” 10am-1pm
  • Florida School of Holistic Living: The Myriad of Medicinal Mushrooms. “Join us for a dynamic and informative evening all about medicinal mushrooms. Explore the benefits of medicinal mushrooms including the specific healing benefits of different species of fungi, and how the healing of our bodies mirrors of the healing of the planet through the web of mycelium. You'll learn how to prepare medicinal mushroom tinctures by double extraction and decoctions properly to maximize their potency and benefit. Explore common medicinal mushrooms endemic to North Florida region, and learn recipes to integrate medicinal mushrooms into your daily routine in a fun and delicious way. Enjoy a mushroom sample to take home.” 10am
  • Mission San Luis: Loco For Love-Theatrical Performance. “Cervantes v. Shakespeare in a knock-down drag-out competition about who wins the title of World Champion Storyteller. Four hundred years after the deaths of these two great yarn-spinners (Cervantes and Shakespeare died within a day of each other in April of 1616), Loco for Love lets you take a close, personal look at differences between Spanish- and English-speaking views of the world. The show is organized into rounds, emceed by a pair of referees who introduce you to big ideas – historic ideas about what’s fair in love, why love drives people crazy, and who gets to make decisions about which lovers belong together. Each round acts out a new scene from the history of Cardenio, a character so full of drama that Shakespeare stole him from Cervantes to star in his last play.” 2pm/free/bring a blanket or lawn chair
  • Birds Oyster Shack: Spider Baby and House of 1,000 Corpses: A Trashyween Event!. “Hey Gang, The Primal Root here and as I am sure you are all aware, the most wonderful holiday of the year for us at The Trash Cinema Collective is right around the corner, HALLOWEEN! So, as is our custom, we are celebrating with a double dose of the bizarre, the macabre, and the depraved to get you in the Halloween spirit! It's a tradition we like to call, TRASHYWEEN! And this year we are bringing you two cult horror classics sure to have you cackling and screaming through the fun sized candies you have crammed into your gob! Halloween costumes encouraged!” 8pm/free
  • Junction @ Monroe: The Allie Cats. 8pm/$10
  • The Moon: Cherub with Frenship & Boo Seeka. 8pm/$22/18+
  • The Plant: The Undercurrent. “The Undercurrent is a live Music and Art show where audiences explore a variety of local musical genres and artistic styles in a shared space.” 8pm/free
  • TENN: Space Jesus / Esseks / Blix / SleepMadness. 10pm
SUNDAY 10/2
  • Lake Ella: Sunday Brunch. “Come out to Lake Ella every Sunday for food trucks and live music! Brunch specialties will be served up by the food trucks from 11am-2pm.”
  • Salty Dawg Pub & Deli: The Famous Acoustic Jam w/ Wayne, Glenn, and Bo. Open mic, free beer for performers. 6pm
  • Atmosphere Pub: Something New Sundays "Alternative Night" hosted by Fendi & Destiny Iman Valentino. I’m really pretty sure this means gay night. 9pm
  • Railroad Square: Cat Fest. “Cat Family Records, The Crum Box Gastgarden, and Pets Ad Litem will host a charity fundraiser, local music festival, and adoption awareness event at Railroad Square Art Park. Admission is free, but all donations go to support animals in need.” This is shaping up to be a really fun time with a ton of great music. Please check here for the full listing. Noon-9pm/free/all ages
  • St. John’s Episcopal Church: Josh Lee, Viola da Gamba: String Academy Scholarship Benefit. 3pm/$10/free child care
  • Junction @ Monroe: Musicians Town Hall Meeting. “An open forum to discuss all things concerning our local music scene. Share ideas, concerns, and resources. Learn about the guild and help us help each other communicate, grow, and prosper together.” 4pm
  • Side Bar: New KIngston w/ SensaMotion & Sway Jah Vu. 8pm/$12
MONDAY 10/3
  • Burrito Boarder: Bar Trivia With Hank. $30 food & bar tab for first place. Specials on shots and $2 margaritas. 7:30pm
  • Waterworks: Patio Theater featuring Grease. “Join us to say good bye to summer and welcome fall by watching this classic film musical. Let's get just a bit more summer lovin' before autumn takes control. “ 8:30pm/21+
  • 926 Bar & Grill: Karaoke with Nathan. He’s got all the songs. All the songs you want to sing. If you see me there, don’t make too much fun. 9pm
  • Side Bar Theater: Open Mic Mondays with Karaoke and Games. “ Open Mic: Drums, Guitar Amp, and Bass Amp will be provided. (Bring your own guitars and various instruments!) Karaoke, Nintendo 64 ( Mario Kart, Starfox, and more!), Foosball, Cornhole.” 9pm/free/18+
  • Atmosphere Pub: Hip-Hop Open Mic Monday's // Dj T Wixx on site // Bring your Tracks. 10pm
Keep checking back, sometimes I update. Got anything to add?
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2014.10.17 01:15 tabledresser [Table] IAmA: Iam Dave Holmes, host of MaxFun's International Waters... AMA!

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Hey Dave, I am a gay freshman at Holy Cross and I really enjoy your writing and in a dorky way am inspired by you. I began reading your columns after you were mentioned on NPR'S Pop Culture Happy Hour and then this summer I discovered that you went to Holy Cross. Do you have any tips for breaking into the world of pop culture writing and just writing in general? Also any tips for being gay in college especially at your Alma Mater? And what were your favorite and least favorite parts of Holy Cross? Wow! Hello to you on Mt. St. James. Did you just start? Where do you live? Tell me everything! Holy Cross was a difficult experience for me, but I'd say I was the cause of most of my problems. I was DESPERATE to fit in, and to me that meant repressing a lot of my personality and interests and also my sexuality, which is kind of a big, depressing, exhausting exercise to put yourself through. Eventually I got it together, but it was a struggle. THE BAD ABOUT HC: It's such a small place, everybody knows everybody's business, and nobody wants to stand out in any potentially negative way, so I think we all put up fronts and didn't get to know each other as well or as deeply as we might have elsewhere. Maybe this is different now. I hope so! Also, Catholic doctrine on sexuality is bananapants, even at a progressive Jesuit school. THE GOOD: There really is a strong social-justice mission there, and so many ways to do some good in the Worcester area (which needs it, let's be honest). Find a way to be useful and get after it. SPUD it up! (Is SPUD still a thing?) BEING GAY THERE: Again, it's a tiny place with a grapevine that works at lightning speed. If you are out to a handful of people, you are probably OUT. But you might not be the only out one there, like I was, so that's good news! The only advice I have is to hang out on campus, even if the dating pool is small. You'll make some good friends, you'll learn a lot, and then by the time you're a junior and you have a car, you can get into Boston and club to your heart's content. As for pop culture writing, you're living in a really great time, in that you get to DO IT. Start a blog! Do a podcast! Be a YouTube person! Find your favorite thing- the thing you know more about than anyone else- and write/talk/dance/whatever about it. You get good by doing, and you have as good a shot at an audience as anyone else. So, just: DO. And seriously, I want to know everything about life at HC in 2014.
What exactly happened with that MTV VJ contest? You came in 2nd but still sort of got the job? What's the story? Did MTV realize what a flop Jesse was? What you saw is exactly what happened with that MTV VJ contest. I did not get the job. But at the wrap party, a lot of people said: "Hey, tough luck, but maybe we'll find something to do with you." So I made a point of getting business cards from everyone I'd met during the experience, and that Monday, I called them all- over and over- until they met with me and we got something on paper. I figured two things: 1) These people say they want to work me, but they'll forget about it in 48 hours if I don't remind them, because that's just human nature, and 2) If I managed to get my foot in the door but then put anything less than 100% of my effort into pushing that shit all the way open, I'd regret it for the rest of my life. So I called and called and met and met, got myself a writing gig for weekend specials, and then they put me on the air after a few weeks. It all worked out. And Jesse wasn't a flop! People watched the shit out of his shows.
1) You were responsible for hipping me to Frank Turner a few years ago. What other current musical artists would you recommend? 2) Your hubby has a wondrous moustache. Does he have any maintenance tips? 3) What is your workout regimen? 4) This question is not about Jesse Camp. 1) Yeah, I'm pretty much still all Frank Turner all the time. But there's a band called Wormburner that I really really like. They're kind of a Hold Steady/Mountain Goats kind of situation, and their lyrics are beautiful. Listen to "Parliaments on Sundays" and "Doxology" from their new album "Pleasant Living in Planned Communities." 2) We are not married, but the 'stache is indeed majestic. Maintenance is an ongoing concern. 3) I do a cardio-based class at my Crossfit gym. Xfit itself is great, and definitely got the pounds off me, but I'm 43 now and throwing all that weight around could really cause injury. So the class I do is more bodyweight stuff- pull-ups, push-ups, burpees, box jumps, squats- in numbers and combinations that are ever-changing and always make me think I'm going to barf. 4) God bless you.
Any chance you can spearhead a reboot of Bands Reunited? I think you would be an excellent host. Who would you like to see reunited...besides the Smiths? You know, that's a great idea. I have no idea who owns that show anymore, but I would totally love it. And I'm not sure I do want to see the Smiths reunited. Morrissey has sort of become unbearable, hasn't he? I would love to see the aforementioned Grays get back together, but as long as Jason Falkner is still doing shows, I'm fine. I mentioned this in my Vulture column last week, but my real dream reunion is Sudden Impact, from the BoyzIIMen "MotownPhilly" video. They were an act on Michael Bivins' label, and they never released a song. They just showed up in that video, pointed at the camera with all the confidence in the world, and disappeared. I want the story, and I want to see "the point" again. Don't you?
This may be a little on the nose, but favorite music video of all time? It is, but sure! I think those early Culture Club videos are pretty much the best. The band was so interesting to look at, the medium was brand-new and exciting, and they were done for like four dollars. This is a fact I learned from Boy George's autobio which I just read: their bass player Mikey overslept the call time for "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me," so the guy playing bass in the video is just some black guy they found.
Do you have 3 all-time favourite albums? I think I do. Here goes: - Jason Falkner "Can You Still Feel?" - Ben Folds Five "Ben Folds Five" - The Hold Steady "Boys and Girls In America" ...But it is subject to change. The one album by the Grays ("Ro Sham Bo") just appeared on iTunes/RDio/Spotify, so that's been on repeat lately, and it is the best. "Very Best Years" and "Both Belong" are pretty much perfect songs.
Jason Falkner. So does this mean you were a Jellyfish fan too? Oh absolutely. "New Mistake" is my jam. (Though it's post-Falkner.)
What podcasts do you listen to for fun? I love Throwing Shade, and I'm not just saying that out of MaxFunWeek school spirit. Those two are geniuses, they work together perfectly, and things that they say will pop into my head weeks later and make me laugh out loud. (Recent one: "Ohhh, beautiful girl, sweat dripping." You'll have to go back and hear it in context.)
Who are your favorite music critics? David Fricke? Rob Sheffield and Chuck Klosterman. I like how they both put music into a cultural context and talk about the effect it has on them as people. That to me is much more interesting than hearing about the production or the mastering or the mixing or whatever, which to be honest kind of puts me to sleep.
Are we going to see a Show Me State World Series? Maybe? The SF Giants definitely got more points than the St. Louis Cardinals last night, though. And they only need to get more points one more time and then the Cards are eliminated from the whole thing! So tonight, I think we (St. Louis) should focus on getting more of those wonderful points. Even if it's hard to do!
When was the last time you cried & the last time you laughed really, really hard? I had a good long cry watching Dawes onstage in Barcelona a couple of months ago. We just happened to have been there when they were playing, and we lucked into tickets, and I just lost it. Those guys are SO GOOD. And I laughed a lot watching Jan Hooks' sketches from SNL last week; wish it had been a happier occasion.
What's your favorite show on TV right now? I cannot stop watching "Iyanla Fix My Life" on OWN. I'm not kidding. She is insane and I love her and I'm afraid of her. Also, I think "The Mindy Project" is pretty great.
And I really do watch a decent amount of "Coronation Street" on Hulu, and I love it unabashedly.
Really though, would you drink a Beer+Clamato again? I totally would. I am a big fan of tomato-based beverages. Not huge on ketchup, but I will murder a Bloody Mary or a Michelada at any time. I should get to work on a tomato/clam/beer signature cocktail- that kind of thing with fresh ingredients could be a tasty treat.
Hi Dave, random questions, boxers or briefs? Beach or mountains? Coffee or tea? Socks or barefoot? Mani or pedi? Why/why not? :)) Boxers (comfort), mountains (crisp air = sweaters), coffee (actually, a nice latte from my Nespresso machine), socks (otherwise shoes and feet alike are destroyed), mani (because I am ashamed of my destroyed-from-occasional-socklessness feet).
Isn't the reason to get a pedicure to make certain you're never ashed of you "destroyed-from-occasional-socklessness" feet? :P Pedis are fun, but only if you don't kick or chortle during them... like I do heehee. Yeah, I'm just too self-conscious. I got one once and I just felt like I was wasting money and making someone spend time with my feet. Couldn't deal.
What is your favorite poem? I don't know why this is, but "gather ye rosebuds while ye may" has been in my head all week. But I think "Days of Me" by Stuart Dischell is the one I think about most often: Link to www.poets.org
If you could travel back in time, where would you go, who would you meet, and why? :) I could be all fancy-pants and say I'd hang out with Gaudi in late 19th century Spain or whatever, but you and I both know I'd be all about San Francisco in 1976, hanging out with the fictional characters from "Tales Of The City."
Hi Dave, big fan here, always wodnered how tall are you, what's your shoe size, and what's your favorite thing to do on a lazy day? Aw, thanks! I'm 5'10", 9 1/2 (US), and on a lazy day I love to go for a long run, do a crossword, then hang out in my backyard drinking wine with my friends. Then I would grill, and cap it off with a movie. Perfection.
Multiple naps throughout.
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